yet another roof question

[large1]

Turned out to be the microswitch in left side of boot. As roof opened, the pin in the microswitch didn't pop out. Matt

which one was yours mate thanx mick

[mattau]

Without looking at the diagram, i/m not sure of its official name... If you look into the boot from the rear. Look at the forward left hand side of the boot. Where the left hand roof hinge is, there is a microswitch there, registers roof closed (switch in) or roof open (switch out).

[large1]

ok back from another eve tryin to fix this roof peeps, ok so ive checked all micro switches with a multimeter and all seem fine, only one seems ??? its the parcel shelf up/down couldnt get a reading like the others but this is bonded to the metal bit unlike the others that have to screws holding them, but this switch is part of another micro switch wiring so when ones open/shut the other is the opposite, i think this will work when hydos work again. i unplugged ecu, roof still didnt work, i also tried refiiting cables this was ok when i had the boot section up but as soon as i lowered it again they wont locate, again i think this will be ok once hydos work, now i checked voltage to motor solenoid which was fine but i think the solenoids faulty not ecu, also when it went to local pug dealer they said this was the next step after they fitted 2 microswitchs and roof didnt work, the motor makes all the right noise but nothing moves, anymore help or advice here would be well appreciated, also is the change of motor and refill fluid easy??? as always thanx mick

[mattau]

I've got a spare working pump/motor if you need one.
Are cables back on then?
Changing out motor is easy.
Pug way of doing fluid is hard, but you can do it easy enough by undoing the fluid reservoir jubilee clip and topping up that way.

[large1]

thanx for the prompt reply mattau, nah ive had to take them off again at the latch end as the roof wont click down fully on auto, so to change pump/solenoid what do ya label pipes, remove, topup hydro fluid then try again?? the mad thing is the motor works and the windows come down with roof switch so i think ecu is ok, i think the motor solenoid is fubar, how much ya want for the pump mate, also tried removing the relays are they always tight im scated of braking then thanx again boss

[mattau]

I know where you are coming from on the roof latching.
With the cables in place though, you just need to move the u clips to manual and the roof should "latch". It certainly won't come open, although it will beep as you drive.
I think chasing the fix without the cables attached may throw you off.
I had the clips manual/auto back and forth for ages, would get half way there, then roof wouldn't do the final latch etc. Normally worked if i drove up the road, came back, and then hit the close button. Once properly latched, move the clips back to auto.
WHen i changed pump, i just put them next to each other, and moved one set of cables at a time.
The labling on the pump (numbers) is different for 2 of them from the Peugeot diagram, but best to ignore that. Just put them in matching positions.
Recommendation is to change the washers when you do this for proper sealing, however i found it was ok to re-use.
I don't suppose it makes too much difference whether you you do fluid first then pipes, or vice versa. There will be some leakage from the pipes, but if you keep them elevated loss can be minimised.
Relays were stiff on mine, chose to leave them alone!
Sounds like your ecu is fine. I would still bet you have a malfunctioning micro based on my own experience.
However, if you do want a motor, it cost me £60 delivered, so happy to pass on for same price.

[Capncol]

You need the cables connected before the roof will work. The first and last operation is the unlatch / latch of the boot lid. Without cables connected the latch microswitches will not operate to tell ECU boot is latched / unlatched.

[large1]

right thanx for the replys guys, i can refit cables but they will tell ecu roof already open wont they?? surely this wont work, if someone knows the correct procedure i can try before i buy lol i think the motor solenoid is screwed as when i watched youtube vid it states that the solenoid needs to work, i metered voltage is there but i cant heard solenoid thanx again mick

[mattau]

From what i understand, the solenoid won't work if things are out of synch.
The pump spins one way for part of the cycle, and once messages from micros correspond, it switches.
Something like that anyway!
Refitting the cables won't tell the ecu anything as such, but it might allow roof to close properly.
Maybe refit the cables, and go back through a manual open/close.
Make sure u clips are in the right positions etc, and try opening the roof.
If there is a problem let us know at what point.
One thing i would say, which does go against advice, but worked for me, was when the roof was stopping half way, i reversed it to close it electrically again. I know they say not to do that, but i did get fed up of undoing the hydraulics, manually closing, etc etc. Gets a bit heavy moving roof back and forth without help! There is supposedly a risk to the roof ecu of doing this though. You'll probably get advice not to do this, but just saying its worked for me!

[large1]

right ill give this a go i think im still going to get the motor noise no movement but its worth a try ill let ya know asap thanx mick

[large1]

right im back tried everything and still cant get the roof to work, so ill get a pump i think, when it went to the local pug dealer they also said this was the next step, ill report back after mattau do you still have pump mate

[mattau]

Yep, i still have the pump. Sent you pm.
Cheers
Matt

[large1]

update with the pump ive received from the top man mattau its fixed the problem 100% it was the motor/pump, at first it didnt want to work but i played about and its sorted, cables all on and relocated and fully functioning, id like to thank everyone that helped me get to this conclusion, the girls are doing cartwheels, ill be checking in to help if poss BIG thanx to mattau for the prompt delivery of a working pump regards mick

[mattau]

No worries mate, glad you got it all sorted!
Hope you are getting some beers for fixing it!

[large1]

No worries mate, glad you got it all sorted!
Hope you are getting some beers for fixing it!

no probs mate i owe ya one hopefully others will read this thread and it may help

lesson 1 do not under any circumstances start putting roof up and then start the car