yet another roof question

[large1]

hi all, about 3 weeks ago i went and looked at a 206cc for a family member, all fine,lovely car 52 plate, anyway 2 weeks later the roof has a hissy fit, we got it shut and i had a quick look but couldnt find anything, they put the car into the local pug dealer and they said that it would cost anywhere from £750 upwards to fix depending on parts etc, after digging around online ive found this brillant forum, the dealer reconed it was possibly 4 micro switches 2 in the front pillars and the 2 in the boot os and ns latches, we intend to replace these ourself but i wanted to know what are the most common microswitches to fail as once we replace these and lets just say it didnt work id like to have a heads up on the other switches, the fault occurred whilst lowering roof and starting the car so i find it hard why the switches have failed because of this, constant beeping to anyway any help appreciated thanx in advance large

[Capncol]

Are you saying you started the engine while the roof was being lowered?

[large1]

no they started putting roof up then started the car, the roof stopped halfway on the way up, they then put it up via manual /youtube help vid, i then checked and tried to get it to work but couldnt so its still beeping to its hearts content and driving the owners mad lol

[Capncol]

Oh dear! It won't be a microswitch.
Bit late now, but you should not operate anything while the roof is in motion. If the manual up/ down hasn't sorted it, you may have corrupted the roof ECU.
Try resetting it by disconnecting the battery overnight, but for heavens sake follow the correct method as shown on this site or you may well make things worse!!!

[large1]

but for heavens sake follow the correct method as shown on this site or you may well make things worse!!!

thanx mate i appreciate the advice do you have a link please, its not my car i wouldnt of done this, also if ecu is corrupt can i use a secondhand one by purely changing it thanx again mate mick

[Capncol]

It's the top post on the electrical forum. Roof ecu's seem to be generic, so just swap it out (powered down of course)

[large1]

thats appreciated mate ill check that now and report back i cant remove battery atm as the cars being used and i dont want to make it worse thanx again mate i really appreciate it mick

[large1]

update the owner tried the battery trick for 15mins this may not be long enough she did the recommend way and roof still didnt work, would that be long enought?? also wheres the roof ecu located ive received the 4 microswitch now so hope to take a look when i get 5 minutes thanx mick

[GrandadMonkey]

Just follow reap's instructions in this thread:
http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9896

[Capncol]

Roof ECU is in n/s corner of boot behind the parcel shelf mechanism. It's behind the carpeting about 3/4 the way up, about 5" square and black & yellow. Battery disconnect would need more than 15mins.
Don't replace any microswitches. It won't be them.

[large1]

thanks guys really appreciate this, it is strange this happened as i tried bits of reaps method but not exact, ill try reaps method but not sure what he means by catches, if this doesnt work, ill try the bsi method if this dont work then if its not going to be the microswitches then it can really only be the roof ecu ill let ya know monday evening hopefully it will work thanx again peeps mick

[Capncol]

Just think about it. How is starting the engine going to damage 4 microswitches?
It will however put a *spike* into the ECU as the voltage will suddenly drop as the starter motor draws power, then will suddenly surge as the alternator comes on stream when the engine starts

[large1]

ill try all methods before changing anything, dont worry i was in the garage game and thought the same originally, but after it vame back from the pug dealer £70 lighter they said the switchs were faulty and that if they replaced all these the roof may still not work and need other parts, i simply told them to get the parts and id fit but after thinking about it again i thought the switches cant be faulty, hopefully reaps or the bsi method will work, whats the shortest time on bsi method thanx again mick

[Capncol]

It's not the BSI time, It's the roof ECU and they seem to take quite a while to fully power down, hence my suggestion of overnight. Not sure of the shortest time. Hour maybe?? Not sure.

[large1]

update really need help now, went do to reaps trick off the link and i cant get the catches to lock the cable wont come out, i can see that its on the hydralic piston at the back and should move into position but its not and i dont want to force it, its the same on both sides also windows wont open now is this all on the same loom im here now trying to fix HELP thanx in advance mick