car wont start after a shot circuit

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wonder
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car wont start after a shot circuit

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hi, could any one help or guide me on what to do?
I Short circuited the power ( positive to the ground-car body) as i was fixing the FM expander on the radio.
now the car cannot start.
its a 2005 1.4l model.

thanks

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Try the main fuses. You may be lucky
Cheers Col.


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Thanks Capncol,
I checked all the fuses, both int he Engine and underneath the sterring wheel, no luck!
The Engine cranks, but thats just about it, it cant pick up... could it be something to do with the key code?
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Difficult to do an "armchair diagnostic" I wouldn't have thought you would lose the keycode, but anythings possible.
Was it the battery cable or a wire behind the dash you shorted?
Does everything else work? (wipers, lights, horn etc:)
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I short the Radio power cable (Pin No. 7 permanent +12V)to the metallic casing of the radio it self.
The key remote functions don't work, i.e. opening and closing the door remotely (you have to insert and turn the key on the door to open up the door.) Everything else seems to be working well, only that the engine doesn't start. I'll check again to be double sure everything else work.
I disconnected the battery awaiting a solution.
Br W

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Did you follow the battery disconnection method as shown on this site?
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Re: car wont start after a shot circuit

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sounds like you have done the BSi and its lost the key transponder code

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I did think that myself, but trying to eliminate the rest first.
Hope he hasn't.

BTW Re- check fuse 7 (passenger comp) 15a.
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I went and checked again all the functions.. and the following do not work; wipers, indicators, headlights, fog lights, remote functions of the key i.e opening and closing the door. In fact the only thing that seems to work is the lowering and raising of window. On switch on the dash board light up, than when trying to start, the engine only cranks up and thats about it.. at this rate the battery will soon be drained.
I checked the fuses both in the Engine and under the steering wheel, they all seemed ok.

What do I check now?

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ECU and BSi :( if you know of someone close to you withh PP 2000 that will help

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wonder wrote:I short the Radio power cable (Pin No. 7 permanent +12V)to the metallic casing of the radio it self.
The key remote functions don't work, i.e. opening and closing the door remotely (you have to insert and turn the key on the door to open up the door.) Everything else seems to be working well, only that the engine doesn't start. I'll check again to be double sure everything else work.
I disconnected the battery awaiting a solution.
Br W
Try BSI reset (details in elec section)
I think Shadow is right, sounds like you've fried BSI unit.

You haven't answered-
"Did you follow battery disconnect method?"
Cheers Col.


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nope, i did not follow the proper battery disconnection.

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Then you have almost certainly fried the BSI. You can either get a secondhand BSI, ECU & Ign key transponder with the same part numbers as yours, or get your BSI repaired then take the car to a dealer to get the BSI program reloaded.
Sorry. It's not good news I'm afraid.
Cheers Col.


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Hey, thanks..
I got it sorted. It was a burnt fuse after all, I seems to have missed it when checking. however the key had to be remapped.
the car is now back on the road roaring like a curb. thanks.
regards

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Well done, but please take heed of the correct battery disconnection method. You were lucky this time.
Cheers Col.


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