If this doesn't fix the sqeaky brakes, I'm selling the thing

upthorpe · Post by **upthorpe** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:38 pm

Just thought I'd add my input to the ongoing sqeaking brake debate.

I have a UK "02" plate 206cc 2.0 and the front brakes have always squeaked badly - I've tried aftermarket "green" pads which are supposed to be a softer compound and it's just as bad.

I've just been up to the local Peugeot garage in Gloucester as there are supposed to be some new genuine pads available that help the problem - they had no knowledge of this and said they weren't aware that sqeaking brakes were a problem on these vehicles.

They gave me a sachet of copperslip type compound to try though, tomorrow, a mechanic friend of mine is going to clean up all the pads/disk/whatever and try the stuff.

Quite honestly if it doesn't fix the problem then I'll be getting rid of the 206cc and never buying another Peugeot, - I'm fed up with the noise, it doesn't happen on my same year Renault, so why the Peugeot - it ruins an otherwise good vehicle.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:30 pm

I know how you feel, its very random on mine but still squeaks none the less....

It makes me mad when they say they have no knowledge of a problem which is so obviously widespread. My dealer said the squeaking phenomenon occurs 50% of the time with all models of the 206 so they do know about it

I'm lucky that I have a good dealer otherwise im sure i'd feel the same as you.

upthorpe · Post by **upthorpe** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:08 pm

The mechanic at Peugeot Templegate in Bristol (where it was serviced) advised periodically using a high pressure jetwash to try and clean out the brake dust from the front calipers.

That's one I don't recall seeing in the manual....

marcelnl · Post by **marcelnl** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:23 pm

can inform you that my CC has the squeek AND my 407 has it too

On the CC I don't mind too much as the brakes are that good that I do not use them too long

, on the 407 the weight of the car makes you use the brakes a bit longer

upthorpe · Post by **upthorpe** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:36 am

I just don't understand why brakes by Renault (my other vehicle, same age), plus other major manufacturers are silent whilst various Peugeot's seem to squeak like a trapped rat.

If it's the "hard compound - lack of asbestos" argument then why don't other manufacturers have similar problems.

I've put up with the noise for too long and now I'm really fed up with it - the car turns heads for sure, but not for it's styling, more for "what's that awful noise I can hear" when it's coming to a halt.

I was in our local supermarket car park tonight, heard a dreadful squeaking noise behind me, and before I even turned around I guessed it was a Peugeot as I'd heard the same noise so many times before - yep a 206cc in moonstone with an embarrassed looking driver (how I sympathised!)

I'll give it one more chance after the copperslip treatment, but if it squeaks again then it's gone and I'll get something else, which won't be a Peugeot - I run a computer support company here in the UK and none of our future vehicles (cars or vans) will ever be Peugeot either, despite rather liking the Partner van range.

I've emailed Peugeot customer support today as well, but I don't expect any significant response from them.

I bet the brakes on the Mercedes SLK don't squeak...

marcelnl · Post by **marcelnl** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:57 am

I do suspect the prob lies in the brakeshoe geometry, but I do not understand why Citroen does not have the same probs as they usually have the same components in their cars.....
Most definitely are the brakepads NOT the cause, as these usually are used in various cars, after all almost all parts originate from a few suppliers for all car manufacturers.

upthorpe · Post by **upthorpe** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:24 pm

Found another interesting website which details many 206cc faults (including of course the squeaking brakes):

www.peachorlemon.co.uk

I now find it extremely hard to believe any dealer that says they are unaware of such problems.

upthorpe · Post by **upthorpe** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:38 pm

Just got it back half hour ago. My mechanic has been round every wheel cleaning everything, removing brake dust and applying copperslip to anything mechanical.

And.... the brakes still squeak.

I have now come to the conclusion that there is a fundemental design problem that Peugeot are aware of and are either unable, or are unwilling to rectify.

So next week I'll be out looking for a replacement vehicle from another manufacturer - I'll not have another Peugeot after this, it's not just the squeak that irritates, it's the lack of dealer or Peugeot UK interest in sorting out the problem.

It's my wife's car, and we're not going to put up with it any more. I'm actually quite happy now I can see an end to this irritation that we've put up with for so long.

Anyone interested in an 02 plate 2.0 206cc in silver with black/red leather & sports pack? - one owner and persistent squeak!

reap · Post by **reap** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:11 pm

sorry to hear about your problem

peugeout have brought out a modified pad for this problem(which does exist)
they have differant spring mounting clips.
also another surefire way to stop the noise i have found is to cut a groove about a couple of mill wide into the friction material in the centre of the pad width wise.
need to cut about half way down the the material so you have a small canal through the centre,this stops the pad from glazing and stopping the horrific squeak.
havent had none come back as yet

wish more of you guys were down my way.could have a field day fixing your cars.
to be honest most of the storys i hear on this site is disturbing if they all from maindealers.
there are still some good ones out there.

Louisg · Post by **Louisg** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:36 am

Reap,

What is the part number for the brake pads and are they for the front and rear?

Louis

charlieannear · Post by **charlieannear** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:41 pm

And where do you work reap?!!

upthorpe · Post by **upthorpe** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:38 pm

I really don't think this is a good idea for so many reasons.

If my vehicle was involved in an accident and was inspected by an insurance assessor, what do you think their reaction would be once they discovered the braking pads had been tampered with by cutting a groove through the friction material?.

Plus if this unathorised modification was carried out by a third party, then they would be liable (which is why most traders includng myself have to take out expensive personal and public liability insurance).

My point is really that a new vehicle should not suffer from such problems in the first place, and so it shouldn't be necessary to contemplate potentially dangerous modifications to the braking system.

Post by **Lyndon** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:11 pm

And where do you work reap?!!

think reap's down cornwall way

reap · Post by **reap** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:23 pm

wrx down in devon
there is nothing dangerous about this modification. vauxhall,rover,ford have been making pads like this for years

http://www.mintexracing.com/frm/index.htm

notice the cut groove through the centre on the pad.
i have had no one complain of sqeeks after i have done this.
but if you not happy with the idea,then i guess you will never be happy driving your car

there was even a time peugeot had us gringing the edges of the pad to eliminate the prob.
the new modifiy pads now come with chanffered edges.

guess you cant please every body.

i havent been told not to do it,and im sticking to what i deffo knows wrxs.

ill post pad part numbers tmrrw night.

Louisg · Post by **Louisg** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:09 am

Nice one Reap, with regards to the new pads do they still need the the groove cutting in the middle?

louis