307CC sucks - its official

carl · Post by **carl** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:28 pm

For a car that is the weight of the 307CC, I'd have thought that an engine line-up similar to the A4 cabrio would be a better idea (1.8 turbo, 2.4 V6, 3.0 V6). It's not as if Peugeot don't have any decent torquey engines (3.0 V6 would be a good start, 306 GTI-6 engine would be OK further down the range).

Ben302 · Post by **Ben302** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:41 pm

If only they woould shoehorn in the V6 motor then it would whip the 3 series for sure. I also would buy one if they fitted the 2.2 Hdi lump as that would give decent go and economy (I used to have 2 306 1.9TD's)

carl · Post by **carl** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:20 am

Transverse V6 works on the Honda NSX

Jussi · Post by **Jussi** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:35 am

If they put an V6 engine on 307cc the prize would be very high. Now here in finland the 136bhp. 2liter version cost 35500euros. The 180GTI conversion Ãs going to be something about 41000euros... so what would be the V6 engine

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But i agree the v6 would be very nice indeed

Darth Bourj · Post by **Darth Bourj** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:22 pm

TOP GEAR hit the nail on the head.

The new 307cc is purely a buying statement in my mind. I said it before and agree it does need a V6 of something. Its never going to be a car that handles particularly well, but at least it would be more of a grand tourer. This would also differentiate it from the 206cc.

I was surprised that top gear did not compare the Renault cc with the 307cc. I have been fortunate enough to test drive a 138 307cc, a Renault cc and a c2 vtr and I hate to say it, but the Renault is a far better car to drive than the 307cc and only looses out to the 206cc due to vague steering/ handling. C2 VTR was also better than expected.

Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but you would be mad not to test-drive other cars simply because you are attached to the Peugeot brand. Its not hard to get test-drives. I donâ€™t like to waste sales peoples time, but when they chuck test-drives at you as soon as you walk in to showrooms it would be rude to refuse.

Darth Bourj · Post by **Darth Bourj** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:23 pm

TOP GEAR hit the nail on the head.

The new 307cc is purely a buying statement in my mind. I said it before and agree it does need a V6 of something. Its never going to be a car that handles particularly well, but at least it would be more of a grand tourer. This would also differentiate it from the 206cc.

I was surprised that top gear did not compare the Renault cc with the 307cc. I have been fortunate enough to test drive a 138 307cc, a Renault cc and a c2 vtr and I hate to say it, but the Renault is a far better car to drive than the 307cc and only looses out to the 206cc due to vague steering/ handling. C2 VTR was also better than expected.

Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but you would be mad not to test-drive other cars simply because you are attached to the Peugeot brand. Its not hard to get test-drives. I donâ€™t like to waste sales peoples time, but when they chuck test-drives at you as soon as you walk in to showrooms it would be rude to refuse.

carl · Post by **carl** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:45 pm

Surely there's room to at least get a blower in there? And it's not like Pug don't have experience of turbocharging -- there was a 406 SRi that was a 2.0 turbo (I think it was an 8V though -- my sister had one). Even if it still only produced ~180 bhp (the 406 was 150 bhp, but I'm sure they could get a bit more) the power delivery would be much more appropriate for a heavy car.

IMHO, light cars should have high-revving, zippy engines. Heavy cars should have engines with lots of low-down torque.

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:05 am

i have to disagree as i liked the 307CC. i love the 206CC but with the 307 it's obviously bigger, more room, decent spec and the difference in build quality is vast.

it's unfair to compare the two as they are very different cars and as others say the 307CC lets itself down with the power.

Jussi · Post by **Jussi** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:58 am

I agree with you Derek. I haven't drive the 307cc yet. "Test car" is coming here in somewhere next spring. But i saw the car in HelsinkiMotorShow and yes the build quality was better than 206cc. And there was more room (i even sit backseat).
Power is poor, but here in Finland several car magazines had chance to test drive it, and they were surprised that performance wasn't so bad (in everyday use).
I'm looking forward to that testdrive (since my girlfriend hasn't (yet) warmed up that 350Z...)