40k Service
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pault
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Duncan
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Have you tried Wokingham Motors. Can't recommend them particularly as our experience of them is mixed. not got to 20,000 yet so can't comment on price
Personally wouldn't go all the way to Basingstoke just for service. Charters in Camberly and Maidenhead are closer. I assume you work in Basingstoke.
Personally wouldn't go all the way to Basingstoke just for service. Charters in Camberly and Maidenhead are closer. I assume you work in Basingstoke.
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Derek
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teddy206 GTi
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I think you'd be mad to pay short of £400 for a service.
Half the things they are supposed to check aren't checked at all.
I know these days they say cars need expert attention because they are so complicated but they also only need to have attention when things break.
Obviously change oil, plugs and filters etc but other than that they are maintainance free. there's very few things that need adjusting. Timing used to be adjusted on cars but these days it's fixed by the ECU...
...when things go wrong it's often just a case of fit the new part and forget about it.
I think car dealers are relying on the fact the average motorist is overwhelmed by what appears to be complicated mechanics of cars...as long as you keep an eye on stuff like brake pads and other wear and tear items then why pay somebody a minimum of £40 an hour! It doesn't take a lifetime in the trade to see what's worn and what's not.
But then if you hate maintaining your car yourself then go ahead and be ripped off big style!
Half the things they are supposed to check aren't checked at all.
I know these days they say cars need expert attention because they are so complicated but they also only need to have attention when things break.
Obviously change oil, plugs and filters etc but other than that they are maintainance free. there's very few things that need adjusting. Timing used to be adjusted on cars but these days it's fixed by the ECU...
...when things go wrong it's often just a case of fit the new part and forget about it.
I think car dealers are relying on the fact the average motorist is overwhelmed by what appears to be complicated mechanics of cars...as long as you keep an eye on stuff like brake pads and other wear and tear items then why pay somebody a minimum of £40 an hour! It doesn't take a lifetime in the trade to see what's worn and what's not.
But then if you hate maintaining your car yourself then go ahead and be ripped off big style!
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Duncan
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pay somebody a minimum of £40 an hour! It doesn't take a lifetime in the trade to see what's worn and what's not.
But then if you hate maintaining your car yourself then go ahead and be ripped off big style!
Waruntee
Residual valuals
Better things to do with my time
cost of tools
issues of liability
my time's worth at least £75/hour
a dislike of the prose style of Haynes manuals
Swarfega and motor oil play havock with my complection
boss pays for my car (not the CC) in any event
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teddy206 GTi
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Warranty- i agree fair enough
Residual value - ok but you'll spend alot more on paying for mechanics labour than you'll lose on the car! Keep all receipts though and you have a history. Only history that counts is the Peugeot one. Dealers will attempt to downvalue your car if you don't have it but it's never worth extra if you do have it! Is it really worth it? Car may be worth less than without the full history but overall you'll save money coz of the stupid labour charges.
Cost of tools - yes they're not cheap but do a service once yourself and the saving on labour will pay for them in one go!
Issues of liability? How do you mean?
If your time is worth £75 an hour then what's the worry with cost of tools?
The dislike of Haynes manuals i'll read that as saying lack of understanding.
I don't think anybody with an interest in how their car works and an ability to sort problems would prefer to pay somebody else to service it!
But then i realise something. This is the CC site, wouldn't pay for one with my own money, all that cash for a car which roof rattles and shakes when erected...and with a tiny boot.i can't see the majority of CC owners ever getting a spanner near the mechanics of their car, they're more interested in how they look. Same goes for MX-5 owners- the majority of owners anyway.
I think i'll stay though coz at the end of the day the CC and the GTi are mechanically pretty much identical so even i could learn a thing or 2!
Residual value - ok but you'll spend alot more on paying for mechanics labour than you'll lose on the car! Keep all receipts though and you have a history. Only history that counts is the Peugeot one. Dealers will attempt to downvalue your car if you don't have it but it's never worth extra if you do have it! Is it really worth it? Car may be worth less than without the full history but overall you'll save money coz of the stupid labour charges.
Cost of tools - yes they're not cheap but do a service once yourself and the saving on labour will pay for them in one go!
Issues of liability? How do you mean?
If your time is worth £75 an hour then what's the worry with cost of tools?
The dislike of Haynes manuals i'll read that as saying lack of understanding.
I don't think anybody with an interest in how their car works and an ability to sort problems would prefer to pay somebody else to service it!
But then i realise something. This is the CC site, wouldn't pay for one with my own money, all that cash for a car which roof rattles and shakes when erected...and with a tiny boot.i can't see the majority of CC owners ever getting a spanner near the mechanics of their car, they're more interested in how they look. Same goes for MX-5 owners- the majority of owners anyway.
I think i'll stay though coz at the end of the day the CC and the GTi are mechanically pretty much identical so even i could learn a thing or 2!
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charlieannear
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Teddy, I think you'll find that Duncan was joking when he said:
You might learn more than car stuff if you hang around here for long.
And I'm sure I'm not the only one trying not to take offence at your comments... :x
a dislike of the prose style of Haynes manuals
Swarfega and motor oil play havock with my complection
You might learn more than car stuff if you hang around here for long.
Just because you're paranoid, it don't mean they're not after you.
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col
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In my experience, a tom dick & Harry history & a manufacturers service history have made no difference. the only times they might is if either you sell the car privately or you drive some prestiege car ie not a peugeot.
If i every do get to 40K, i definately won't be paying £400 for a useless monkey service. I'll either sell or go to Halfords
If i every do get to 40K, i definately won't be paying £400 for a useless monkey service. I'll either sell or go to Halfords
Colin
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Duncan
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no I was deadly serious I've moved onto th D.G.Hessayon garden "expert" book and Oil of OlayTeddy, I think you'll find that Duncan was joking when he said:
And I'm sure I'm not the only one trying not to take offence at your comments... :x
a dislike of the prose style of Haynes manuals
Swarfega and motor oil play havock with my complection
You might learn more than car stuff if you hang around here for long.
how dare you sugest I was taking the piss!
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charlieannear
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Sorry Duncan, my mistake!

Just because you're paranoid, it don't mean they're not after you.
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Dave Morton
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Not the ones I knew and there were a lot of usSame goes for MX-5 owners- the majority of owners anyway.
Most weekends spent taking bits of and popping bits on for no reason other than it was a something to do. The cars don't ever break so there no sensible reason to play with them. Still though on the last one I did all the mods and all the servicing (inc cam belts etc.).
That said I won't be touching the 206 as thats what the warranty is for
PS £400 for a service isn't that bad when you think how much you've saved by not having a 12,000 or worse still 6,000 mile interval by 40,000 you've only shelled out around £140 on servicing which is cheap.
PS TVR servicing was around that (£350) at a specialist just for a normal annual service. Dealer prices crazier still easily up to £1,000 for a service!!
In the unlikely event I still have mine at 40k it will go to the dealer for a service
Dave
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Mr_AWOL
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Reasoning for the above comment stems largely from the fact that i used to know a guy with a garage. He now runs a body shop because he admitted that he could not run a business as a mechanic anymore because the training and the tools he required were too frequent and too expensive, and if he didnt pay for these he felt he would be giving a crap service