Advanced Driving Test = Cheaper Insurance (??)

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Jamesmitchell
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Post by Jamesmitchell »

I know this is slightly off-topic but does anyone know where or who to get in contact with to get some info about taking an advanced driving test?

I'm paying £720 a year for fully comp. insurance for my 206CC SE and I believe you can get upto a 20% discount if you pass your advanced driving test??

Is it worth it? Has anyone else taken the test?
I dont even know what's involved with an advanced test.

Anyone any ideas?

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Post by Greenday »

I did an advaanced driving course which was about 5 lessons, its the Pass Plus course and is quite well known, hasn't made a blind bit of difference as far as i can tell with insurance though
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Post by Jamesmitchell »

Thanks for that Ni 'cc' k

Managed to get a link to a local Institute of Advanced Motorists group just up the road from me.

Ther are many groups throughout the UK

http://www.iam.org.uk/


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Post by andrew »

I did the rospa one ... http://www.rospa.com or more to the point http://www.roada.org.uk, its supposed to be the nearest to the police examination you can get. Do not know what difference it makes to insurance yet as ive not passed long enough for insurance to need renewing. The word is shop around though !
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Post by Mr_AWOL »

Normally you only get a 'discount' on the more expensive policies.

I think it is a complete waste of time (and money) if you do the course purely to get cheaper insurance. If you just wanna be a better driver/ learn high speed cornering, then do it :|

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ahem, advanced driving is not about getting around a corner faster, if thats what you think you are sadly mistaken.
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Post by Adrian »

Normally you only get a 'discount' on the more expensive policies.

I think it is a complete waste of time (and money) if you do the course purely to get cheaper insurance. If you just wanna be a better driver/ learn high speed cornering, then do it :|

I agree the only companies who offered me a discount were the expensive ones anyway.
I looked into this when the BSM were doing a free introductory lesson. I disagreed with some of the methods required for the advanced driving test so I decided not to take it any further. :x
There is certainly nothing high speed about it. :rolleyes:

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Post by andrew »

Adrian, what kind of stuff did you disagree with out of interest ? I know the IAM and Roada do take different ideas on how to position self on bends. It all depends on the situation your in though, personally i position for the best view without compromising safety.
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Post by Adrian »

Andrew
I didn’t like the way they wanted me to use the gears. I use the box a lot so I’m always in the right gear for the speed I’m doing or the acceleration I want. I’ll drop down a cog or two to overtake quickly and smoothly, so I double de-clutch for a smooth gear change and to get the revs up for a quick acceleration, that’s wrong apparently. Coming up to a bend they wanted me to do all the braking before changing down, I think that is wrong, so I got told off for heal and toeing as well as double de-clutching. OK they did pick up on some of my bad habits but I can’t see how staying in a high gear can be better than changing down.

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Post by CB »

I agree...

my mum has done both the Advanced Motorists and ROSPA and in my opinion all it succeeds in doing is make you drive like a git. Yes, you are apparently safer but FAR more boring. Adrian mentioned about the braking before changing down, my mum found this incredibly difficult to get to grips with...try it for yourselves, approach a junction in 5th gear, slow down by braking alone (do not change down) and see how alien it seems. I tried it and it goes against every natural instinct. Plus the other thing i noticed after my mum did it is she is now VERY critical of every other roaduser because being an Advanced Motorist and a member of ROSPA seems to make you think you are infallible.
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Post by andrew »

BSM are expensive anyway. Lower gear i feel is the only save way to overtake pesonnally, within reason. Also, to take corners if you do it right you dont need to brake ..... hummm they pulled up on me for braking after gear change too on my test. Im gonna have to look in my books about this now youve mentioned it. But if you think about it ... say approaching a round about its a good idea to be close to the correct speed for the gear to save wear and tear on vehicle anyway. There isnt much point of making your engine growl to slow it down.
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Post by andrew »

CB, as a member of ROSPA advanced drivers association, i still make mistakes like everyone else, but there you go .. there are some bad drivers on the road, i don't feel I am one of them though !
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If you just wanna be a better driver/ learn high speed cornering, then do it :|
ahem, advanced driving is not about getting around a corner faster, if thats what you think you are sadly mistaken.
'Ahem' So you just decided to ignore the first part of my post eh? :rolleyes:

The point of my comment being that there is NO financial gain from doing the test. In fact, to be honest, i think the whole thing is very pointless. If you are 17 you are GOING to jerk around, advanced test or not. Messing about in the car when i first passed (handbrake turns on snow & ice in empty car parks etc) Provided me with far more driving skills than the advanced motoring course :D

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Post by Mr_AWOL »

Also, as evidenced on here by other people's comments, i found that the high speed cornering was the ONLY thing the instructor showed me which was ANY use at all - the rest was just petty additional rules which didn't actually make any difference to a drivers ability/safety :no:

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Post by andrew »

Did not ignore the rest of your post, but I wanted to make it clear that it was not about high speed driving, there is one thing to drive quickly, there is another to know when it is safe to do so.

I always found advanced driving to give a higher state of awareness of what is going on around you by using trialed and tested methodology.

It takes more than a few hours of extra lessons to gain that skill, it takes many more to keep that skill!
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