You are sugesting that wasn't a fireman
Now I am racking my brain to think what you were saying
A Complaint about Moderators
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"LET YOUR HOMES BURN" PLEAD FIREMEN
The leader of the Fire Brigades Union (FBU), Andy Gilchrist, launched a radical solution to break the deadlock in the fire strike today. "It seems clear to us that concentrating on pay and conditions has not worked in the current negotiations. As such, we have tabled an agenda which offers a modest pay increase and modernised working practice in return for a commitment from homeowners to assume first line firefighting duties their own bloody selves."
Emergency? I don't think so.
r Gilchrist pointed out that most fires attended by the service resulted in massive losses as a result of fire and water damage, regardless of how quickly the fire was extinguished. "If people simply let fires burn out themselves, the damage is likely to be about the same. However, this way it has the tremendous advantage that it will not cause disruption to a firefighter's sleep patterns or the unnecessary use of equipment that could be better employed nipping down to the shops or attending a local charity event or supermarket opening."
"naked flames"
The £85,000 a year father of none, speaking via satellite link from his £2 million mansion on the Algarve, then went on to call for a massive 40% drop in emergency calls. "I know this is an ambitious goal, but with public support, a willingness not to dial 999 and the following of a few common-sense rules such as never smoking, lighting fires or using candles, matches or other naked flames, I know we can achieve it. And in the event of a fire, our message to the public is simple: do not call out the fire service unless a firefighter's home is also at risk."
Mr Gilchrist sees this as an "escape route" to the stalemate of the ACAS negotiations. He remains resolute in his rejection of the employers "meagre" 11.6% offer, whilst other public sector workers were coming away from the negotiation tables with agreements - some in excess of 1.9%. However, Mr Gilchrist did offer one other ray of hope by stating that he was prepared to enter into exclusive negotiations linking his own pay to those of business leader in a similar role such as the "Chief executives of Vodafone, GlaxoSmithKline or possibly the Prime Minister" as a way out of the deadlock.
"Break It"
Mr Gilchrist also urged the public to change its view of the fire-fighters as "do-gooders" who are prepared to lay down their lives for others at little or no reward. "Altruism is so 20th Century. We're not the RNLI or Mountain Rescue Service, prepared to do a dangerous job purely for the benefit of others. The public service cry of the 21st century will be 'What's in it for us?'" he cried, clutching a copy of "If it Ain't Broke - Break It" by famed Management Guru, Dr Hugo Z Hackenbush.
Mr Gilchrist finished by explaining that the philosophy of "public service" was radically outdated and people should now recognise the firefighters' entitlements under the Human Rights Act to minimum periods of "lounging about, reading papers, playing pool and waiting for something to happen."

The leader of the Fire Brigades Union (FBU), Andy Gilchrist, launched a radical solution to break the deadlock in the fire strike today. "It seems clear to us that concentrating on pay and conditions has not worked in the current negotiations. As such, we have tabled an agenda which offers a modest pay increase and modernised working practice in return for a commitment from homeowners to assume first line firefighting duties their own bloody selves."
Emergency? I don't think so.
r Gilchrist pointed out that most fires attended by the service resulted in massive losses as a result of fire and water damage, regardless of how quickly the fire was extinguished. "If people simply let fires burn out themselves, the damage is likely to be about the same. However, this way it has the tremendous advantage that it will not cause disruption to a firefighter's sleep patterns or the unnecessary use of equipment that could be better employed nipping down to the shops or attending a local charity event or supermarket opening."
"naked flames"
The £85,000 a year father of none, speaking via satellite link from his £2 million mansion on the Algarve, then went on to call for a massive 40% drop in emergency calls. "I know this is an ambitious goal, but with public support, a willingness not to dial 999 and the following of a few common-sense rules such as never smoking, lighting fires or using candles, matches or other naked flames, I know we can achieve it. And in the event of a fire, our message to the public is simple: do not call out the fire service unless a firefighter's home is also at risk."
Mr Gilchrist sees this as an "escape route" to the stalemate of the ACAS negotiations. He remains resolute in his rejection of the employers "meagre" 11.6% offer, whilst other public sector workers were coming away from the negotiation tables with agreements - some in excess of 1.9%. However, Mr Gilchrist did offer one other ray of hope by stating that he was prepared to enter into exclusive negotiations linking his own pay to those of business leader in a similar role such as the "Chief executives of Vodafone, GlaxoSmithKline or possibly the Prime Minister" as a way out of the deadlock.
"Break It"
Mr Gilchrist also urged the public to change its view of the fire-fighters as "do-gooders" who are prepared to lay down their lives for others at little or no reward. "Altruism is so 20th Century. We're not the RNLI or Mountain Rescue Service, prepared to do a dangerous job purely for the benefit of others. The public service cry of the 21st century will be 'What's in it for us?'" he cried, clutching a copy of "If it Ain't Broke - Break It" by famed Management Guru, Dr Hugo Z Hackenbush.
Mr Gilchrist finished by explaining that the philosophy of "public service" was radically outdated and people should now recognise the firefighters' entitlements under the Human Rights Act to minimum periods of "lounging about, reading papers, playing pool and waiting for something to happen."
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at last .............. that explains everything ............like i said b4 it was a simple mistake on my part to leave nuttyslack as a moderator in the meeting section, which is why he's been removed.
i also stated that a super moderator can moderate in ANY forum even though they aren't down as moderator.
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I MUST BE A SUPER MODERATOR, that's why it doesn't show up.
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Derek
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derek must have a black mark against his name after temporarily defecting to the .com forum some time ago.
myself and robbie felt the need to return as this place was going to the dogs in our absence
myself and robbie felt the need to return as this place was going to the dogs in our absence
Derek
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u seem to have forgotten greg and erm and some other foreigners that i don't remember :rolleyes:only two really active users with .com (Derek & Robbie)
Everyone else are all here :rolleyes:
although going by memory there could only have been two active users here at the time too as when robbie and myself defected this place was completely dead
Derek
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