Supaguard

toot · Post by **toot** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:10 pm

Hi all.

I have a black CC and it was treated with SupaGuard inside and out. I was just wondering how I go about cleaning the car and actually making it look like something has been done. I normally use a jet wash but after washing I get those watermarks all over the car (like when rain dries on the paintwork). I'm thinking that to avoid those marks, I need to dry it after using the jet spray.

I'm too lazy to dry a car so would rather go through an automatic car wash and get a cycle that dries the car for you. The thing with this is that all dry cycles want to apply a wax to the car first. My Peugeot dealer told me you couldn't wax/polish the car with SupaGuard on it so what do I do?

How do the rest of you CC owners with black, SupaGuarded cars keep your little Peugeot babies clean

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Alex LS · Post by **Alex LS** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 5:21 pm

Diamond Brite rather than Supagard, but the principle's the same.

If you cared enough to pay for paint protection, don't thow it away by sticking it through a carwash - do it yourself:

Bucket of water with car shampoo. Sponge. Hosepipe with clean water.

Use the above in the correct combination and then dry using a squeegee (or shammy leather).

Result - one sparkling car.

toot · Post by **toot** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:32 pm

I did try to wash it the first time by hand but it started to go streaky. The thing with hand washing for me though is that I live on a first floor flat so a hose isn't really an option for me. I could use the jet spray as normal then just dry it by hand. The bristles on the brush worry me though.

Another alternative is to find a good valet place locally that will hand wash it for me. Anyone got any idea how much that sort of thing costs these days? If I get it done near home it woulod probably cost more (being London) but if I find somewhere near work (in Maidenhead), that will probably be cheaper.

Alex LS · Post by **Alex LS** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:35 pm

I could use the jet spray as normal then just dry it by hand. The bristles on the brush worry me though.

Brush? Get a squeegee.

Post by **Lyndon** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:50 pm

alex, i think he means the brush on the jet wash machine

all i do when i clean mine is use the jet wash (shampoo then rinse only)

then nip back home get a bucket of clean water and a leather shammy and just dry off the car, all the blokes at work think i wax it but i've only waxed it twice since i bought it

Alex LS · Post by **Alex LS** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:55 pm

alex, i think he means the brush on the jet wash machine

Oh yeah, maybe so

toot · Post by **toot** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:29 pm

I did mean the jet wash brush. Would be no hassle to do that though as the jet wash is only a 5 minute drive from home. What I might do is keep a leather in the car and if there is no one waiting to use the jet-wash after me, I can wipe it down on the spot.

Any recommendations on the type of leather then? Also, can i just bung them in the washing machine, then tumble dry them or do I have to treat them especially well? I'm useless with this sort of thing

Alex LS · Post by **Alex LS** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:09 pm

Get a squeegee

PGAC are still doing them for around Â£8 I think...

Alex LS · Post by **Alex LS** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 10:21 pm

http://www.peugeot-gti.net/shop/custome ... 258&page=1

You can get similar ones at Halfords as well...

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 1:16 am

or a bit cheaper at costco if you are a member

rob · Post by **rob** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 6:30 am

Hey I was gonna suggest Costco - lol

Approx Â£3.46

As for the brush on the jet wash...
you could perhaps take your own brush or use the spray lance to wash the brush before you use it.

Leather - I use Autoglym ones. All I do is wash them out in hot water and leave to dry afterwards.

jerham · Post by **jerham** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 12:16 pm

A word of caution!!!

Before using a car wash or jet wash on a regular basis, read your Supagard guarantee carefully. I have a copy that is about 18 months old and it states quite clearly that a mechanical car wash will damage the sealant. I would expect this exclusion to also cover powerful jetwashes, that apply water under high pressure and that involve the use of a brush to aid the washing process. The reason for this exclusion by Supagard, Diamond Brite and ourselves is that the paint protectant is a seal that covers and protects your entire car. We are guaranteeing this seal to last for 3 years in the case of Supagard and ourselves and for one year in the case of Diamond Brite (although this can be renewed every year for up to 6 years, subject to meeting the conditions laid out in the guarantee). Regular washing with harsh detergents, mechanical action or application of water under high pressure can have an accumulative effect, that may begin to degrade the seal and therefore reduce it’s effectiveness.

So how should you wash your car? Follow the advise offered by Alex and use a bucket filled with a good quality neutral shampoo, with a sponge (make sure it is clean and free from grit). If you have had problems with streaking then make sure that your car shampoo is good quality and is neutral. In our experience you can sometimes find that using a shampoo with a high wax content can cause streaking on treated cars. Switch to something with less wax and you should have less problems.

We would also agree that a squeegee is the easiest way to dry a car – but make sure it is clean and free from grit. If you prefer to use a chamois then simply rinse it out after washing and leave to dry .

Incidentally, there is nothing in my copy of the Supagard guarantee that says you may not polish your car after application and we can’t think of a scientific reason why this would be detrimental. You might like to check this with Supagard. There is no need to polish a car after applying a paint protector but we always tell Silver Seal users that they may use any good quality non abrasive polish, if they wish to polish their car. Make sure it is non abrasive (ie meant for new cars) as a polish with high cut could begin to break the seal left by the paint protector.

Hope this helps you.
Sue Jerham
Autosmart

Julia · Post by **Julia** » Mon Jan 06, 2003 2:38 pm

Anyone got any idea how much that sort of thing costs these days? If I get it done near home it woulod probably cost more (being London) but if I find somewhere near work (in Maidenhead), that will probably be cheaper.

Hi Toot
I am in Berkshire and have tried and tested various valet companies for the peeps cars at work. I am sure they cover Maidenhead as its not too far away so when I am back at work (hopefully next week) then I will pm their details for you.

toot · Post by **toot** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 5:13 pm

thanks for your help everyone. I didn't realise there had been so many replies as for some reason I didn't get notice emails like I normally do. Hmm.

Anyway, Washed the car at the jet wash today and dried it off straight away with my new chamois. What a difference it makes!!! I would never have thought a damp piece of cow skin would make such a difference to the finish

Thanks to Lyndon and Alex on that one.

Julia, did you manage to get the details for the people you use? Bearing in mind what Sue said, if the price is right I may just use them. I like doing the car myself and it is a pleasure to do it when seeing the benefits after doing it properly (as I have discovered today) but I can't handwash it myself. I live in a 1st floor flat so it isn't really practical (especially as my hot water is out of action

. I did suspect a jetwash maybe not the best and I especially don't like the idea of sharing a brush with people that have been washing mucky vans with it but me handwashing is, as explained, out of the question.

Anyway, thanks again for all the help and advice. Vera now looks fresh from the showroom (except for a nasty chip at the top of the bonnet. Bloody motorways

)

Alex LS · Post by **Alex LS** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 5:18 pm

Vera ?????