Engine cranking, no start, cam sprockets not turning

[wizlinkx]

No you will be fine as the oil will pump around with engine running. you will probably find the tappets go quiet after about 20-30mins running

Phew. Thank you.

I was panicking to glory. My wife was happy that I fixed her car.
Thank you guys. Still not run for that long as the smoke from the grease keeps coming when the exhaust gets hot. SO I have to switch off the engine until it gets cooled.

I think tomorrow I'll sit and clean off the grease and oil spilt on it.

Don't know how to thank you guys.
Been a great help.

[wizlinkx]

Got water coming out of the tail pipe. Isn't that great?

[wizlinkx]

The cooling fan didn't kick in at 95.
So I put the AC (what I usually do to keep the engine cool), but that didn't help too.
Traced the wiring and found everything ok, Ignition at ON position 12v present at the relays.
Found that the 0v signal to the relays weren't coming thru, which means a problem at the AC / Coolant temp unit.
It was getting late to diagnose, so I cut the 0v signal wire to the high speed relay (at the relay connector) and sheered a bit of the ground wire going to the motor and bridged, so there will be 0v all the time when the ignition is on ON. Tested. The fan cuts out once the ignition key is removed.
Removed the low speed relay.

There's no AC gas in the system to cool. But I think whether there's gas or not when the climate control is switched on, the engine cooling fan must come on. Since I haven't ever tried it without gas, I do not know for certain.

Anyway. Now I can move the car. So can go and fill AC gas, then put everything back as it is and check.
In this condition, I managed to run the engine continuously without temperature rising above 75.

Somehow that sound from the intake follower's never went away.

The engine sounds really cool now when throttled. I didn't raise over 3000 rpm. Just for safety

Couldn't have done without you nice people.

[Capncol]

You may have a stuck thermostat causing your fan issues. Best to sort it as it is now not getting hot enough, and putting extra strain on cooling fan and alternator.

[gazza82]

Got water coming out of the tail pipe. Isn't that great?

If it's just condensation it's fine ...

[IanL]

The cooling fan didn't kick in at 95.
So I put the AC (what I usually do to keep the engine cool), but that didn't help too....

How does that work? I would expect putting the AC on would require the engine to work harder, turning the compressor and generating additional electric power for the fan.

[wizlinkx]

The cooling fan didn't kick in at 95.
So I put the AC (what I usually do to keep the engine cool), but that didn't help too....

How does that work? I would expect putting the AC on would require the engine to work harder, turning the compressor and generating additional electric power for the fan.

Absolutely. This is one of the reasons Vehicle here in the middle east keeps breaking down regularly.
If you have a garage, you are a king here

The climate here is hot all year long. So we use the AC continuously

Regular problems are AC / Alternator / engine cooling problems. People sell off their cars after a 100,000 kilometers. This is why cars are dirt cheap here.

Yet you'll find the odd character like me who enjoys DIY

[wizlinkx]

Got water coming out of the tail pipe. Isn't that great?

If it's just condensation it's fine ...

Yes. until it heat up toward 85 or so.

[wizlinkx]

You may have a stuck thermostat causing your fan issues. Best to sort it as it is now not getting hot enough, and putting extra strain on cooling fan and alternator.

Wow.

I put back the relay wiring as it is, and checked by removing the thermostat electrical connector. The fan kicked in. Thanks.

No wonder the top hose coming from the thermostat going to the radiator is swollen near the thermostat. She's been running like this since day one I guess

So the thermostat is not opening up. Ok am going to be cheap, and attempt a repair on the thermostat and see if can get it to open up. Else go get one. it's about $60.00. if it works, then use it for a week or so then get new one.

[gazza82]

If it's stuck ... it's stuck. You probably won't fix it. BUT .. most modern thermostats stick OPEN not shut. That way if they do fail you just run cool not hot and overheat ..


If the top hose is swollen, get a new one and swap it at the same time.

[Capncol]

You can check it by heating up in a pan with a thermometer in it. See if it starts to open at the correct temp. It should start off fully closed. Don't forget to bleed the cooling system again once you put it back together

[IanL]

If it's stuck ... it's stuck. You probably won't fix it. BUT .. most modern thermostats stick OPEN not shut. That way if they do fail you just run cool not hot and overheat ..

I know people say that, but, in my experience, they can stick in any position, so assume the worst.

[wizlinkx]

If it's stuck ... it's stuck. You probably won't fix it. BUT .. most modern thermostats stick OPEN not shut. That way if they do fail you just run cool not hot and overheat ..

If the top hose is swollen, get a new one and swap it at the same time.

You can check it by heating up in a pan with a thermometer in it. See if it starts to open at the correct temp. It should start off fully closed. Don't forget to bleed the cooling system again once you put it back together

If it's stuck ... it's stuck. You probably won't fix it. BUT .. most modern thermostats stick OPEN not shut. That way if they do fail you just run cool not hot and overheat ..

I know people say that, but, in my experience, they can stick in any position, so assume the worst.

Thank you guys for all the input. Appreciate a lot.
The Thermostat is stuck. No mater how long I boiled it. So I took off the spring and piston assy. so that water can move around freely (i know this is not the best, But I'll be putting new one in a week or two, and use coolant not water).

That high pitched sound we thought was the cam followers, appeared to be a crack in the breather hose. The tiny one going directly to the inlet manifold, and then somewhere else (some air switch I think). Temporarily patched it and the sound is gone.

But before detecting that, I removed the cam followers' covers to pour oil. I was shocked to see my engine making cappuccino . Well sounds funny. But I'm not joking. Some very light brown substance on the covers. Smells chocolaty. And a yellowish lose liquid like water.

Check the pics and video. https://youtu.be/FZaOEz_KEGc

On top of this I got an oil leak. Don't know where it's going from. I'm certain it's not the head.
How came the cam followers bottom and top mounting has no gaskets? When I removed them to take the head out there was only just black silicon sealant. So I bought some silicon sealant and put in there. I don't know if it is leaking near the cams. because I see the oil is falling around the passenger side. dripping from the mount. And it leaks only when the car moves. After shutting the engine it gradually stops.

[Capncol]

Did you carry out an oil change as part of your overhaul? Are you sure you have the head gasket the right way round, right way up?

It looks like you have water and oil leaks, the water going into the oil will cause the emulsion that you see

[wizlinkx]

Did you carry out an oil change as part of your overhaul? Are you sure you have the head gasket the right way round, right way up?

It looks like you have water and oil leaks, the water going into the oil will cause the emulsion that you see

No I haven't done the oil change yet.
Yes. In the gasket it was wrtiiren ""top". That side I placed toward the top of the engine.
When I check oil thru dip stick it looks very clean.

I'll be removing the top tomorrow. Will be getting CAM oil seals and the another tube of silicon sealant.
Somehow I feel I made a mistake in sealing the cam top assembly.
once I remove the CAM belt and back cover, I'll know what might have happened.

Will keep posted.

Thanks CapNCol.