hello i have a pug 206 cc 2003 1.6 16v petrol engine TU5JP4 i have no wipers or wash
i have changed the motor and linkage the comm 2000 unit
tested all fuses with and without power and all is good but still no wipers or wash
i have tryed the bsi reset more than once on joy
while looking at the fuses i pulled the f4 20amp incar fuse board
and the wipers started runing but only at one speed for about 10 or so seconds but no wash or
any other control over them from wiper arm i put the fuse back and it made its bong noise and still nothing is working. Every thing else on the car
is working fine
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yeah sorry didn't know where to post as new here re comm unit I was told it was tested before it was removed the place I use has a good rep and you get a 3 month guarantee from them that aside what are the chances of it having the exact same problem (shrugging shoulders) any one have any thoughts on why they would start working when the fuse was removed?
Make sure the plugs on the back of the Comm 2000 are pushed fully home. I have seen the socket outer shrouds pulled out slightly when plugs were removed. Other than that, Possible BSI fault, or wiring (check the red/white twisted wires to the wiper motor)
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mrpinky wrote:.... any one have any thoughts on why they would start working when the fuse was removed?
The com2000 does not switch the supply current to the wiper motor. It sends digital coded instructions which the BSI and engine compartment fusebox interpret as commands to control the wiper motor. It sounds as if you removed and replaced the fuse with power on, i.e. the BSI had not gone to sleep. When that is done, the BSI is prone to do a wide variety of incorrect actions.
good point Ianl its starting to sound like I must be a dodgy BSI Capncol the wires at wiper plug are grey pink green and green/yellow ??? can I just ask about the BSI reset when I says close all doors should they be locked as at the end of the reset it says open and close the doors if my doors are locked and the bonnet up the alarm triggers so I leave them unlocked my point is would this change anything and cause the reset to fail Regards mrpinky
On the subject of BSI reset after extensive searches I have found contradictory points in the method has anyone that knows the procedure inside out and any things to look out for regarding different models got the time to put a youtube tut together
They usually differ on the amount of time between steps. I have used this one - I believe it is based on a Peugeot TSB, and it seems to work every time.
The doors need only be closed, not locked.
Changing the BSI is a big thing, as it needs to be "virginised" with some special software and then configured with Peugeot Planet. I suggest you get Planet onto the car before you go down that step. It may just point you to something else.
what if I change ECU, Keys, Barrel And BSI Unit from a different car are there any issues with this or would the central locking need changing too ? BTW I called the comm guy and after a chat he thinks it unlikely to be the comm more a BSI problem realy what it boils down to is what is the cheapest way to go I have been made redundant and my cash is running out cant afford a new car without a job need a car for work argggg
The "new" remote key should continue to work the central locking, but will not, of course, open the doors manually, unless you change the door locks as well.
Alternatively, you could send the BSI in for repair. Google "Peugeot 206 BSI repair".
Peugeot 206 cc 2003 - The story so far...... whilst driving in the rain my wipers stopped working resulting in recovery back to my house with the car.
The next day I proceeded to investigate concluding that I would change the wiper motor and linkage. Picked up a second-hand one from just round the corner.
Got home and fitted it and still nothing. So after posting on Peugeot forums I was told to try the bsi reset procedure - you know doors closed - window down - wait 3 mins etc.
I gave this a few tries BUT STILL NO WIPERS OR WASH. Returning to the Peugeot forums with my list of what I had tried the subject of a comm 2000 unit came up. So back to the car dissmantlers
and as luck would have it the car that the replacement wiper assembly came from was the same year and model as mine and the comm unit had the same part number! Fantastic I thought - went home got on youtube
found a video on how to refit the unit - so air bag off - stering wheel off - comm off - new comm on - reconect battery - and no wipers. I feel I should mention that in the time in between forums and buying replaement parts I did test every fuse fitted to the car with and without power - all of which were fine -
also looked for bad earths and unplugged all sockets from the under bonnet fuse box and from the bsi unit popped them both open to see if there was any water damage burning dry joints or anything else that looked suspect.
- but no - they were very clean so nothing to see there.
So far the cost is at £70.00 - so not breaking the bank but as I had been made redundant just before Christmas - every penny counts. So biting the bullet I searched for a mobile auto electrician. Found a guy with 27 years experience - I called him up - explained all to him including that cash was tight
to which he said no problem and he would do it for a tenner less that his normal rate, explaining that it was one fee so if he could sort it out in less than an hour he wins - but if it took 3 or 4 hours I get a good deal. Fantastic i thought.
what a nice guy telling me he would be with me before 4pm the next day - brilliant I thought. So I texted him all the details he asked for and I stayed home the next day. Anyway 4pm came but he didn't soI gave it 20 minutes and sent a text saying I guess you have been delayed he replied saying yes he had and could I text my address again - not sure why as it was to the same phone I originally sent the text too
Anyway he came - plugged in his kit and using actuation he made my wipers work and the washers. I was starting to feel excited. Anyway he sat there doing things for a while but the wipers/washers were still not working once the kit was unplugged.
He then told me it was the comm unit (wow - who would have thought it would be possible to fit a second-hand unit with the exact same fault). He said I would need to buy a new one. So I got to it - found a new one - £193 with vat and postage. It came 2 days later so I went out there feeling excited once more
- fitted it and NO wipers. I should mention that all other functions work and have been throughout this whole drama. So I called "MY GUY" - no answer - so I left a message. Gave it an hour or so and tried again - still no answer - so sent a text. Anyway at about 9.30pm I got a text saying he had just finished work and would call tomorrow not knowing if he meant he was going to phone me or call round.
I sent a text saying OK text me when you have a better idea of when you can get to me. Anyway the next day came and went despite trying to contact him and the same the next day.
By the way - his ad says he works 7 days a week including bank holidays until 9 pm.
So the next day I phoned him - no answer - so I left a message. This time he replied with a text saying he was literally on his way to me but he was at some distance so I expected it to be
a couple of hours - he did turn up - but with no kit on him - just saying have you got the keys to which I replied yes and started to walk to the car. He then said I'll go and get my tools
and walked off down the road. As the car had been sitting for a while I thought I should check it would start, thinking if it doesn't and the battery is too weak or flat - he won't be able to
do anything and may be pissed off. So I started the car and let it run until he came back, which he did. Upon his return I was told "I wish you hadn't done that - I'll now have to wait 45 minutes
for it all to go to sleep....." - he also said "I need to get something to eat but by the time I come back it would be getting too dark to do an osiloscopic??? test..." and that he would have
to take the bsi out and strip it as it is a multi-layered circuit and it can't be done in the dark. So once again another wasted day - but he said he'd be back tomorow but not until his
deliveries had come - so it would be between 10 and 11 am - and off he went.
So you can guess - 12.30 came and no sign of him - so I texted him politely asking if he could let me know what was happening? Two and a half hours later I got a reply saying some parts
had gone missing and he was at the postal depot chasing them up - but his reception was bad and could he collect the key and do what he needed to do without me being there - followed by I do apologise.
Texting back I told him I would be here anyway and asked what time he would be here? It's now 9pm and not a word.....
Throughout this I have been calm and polite to him - but some other things I would like to add - apart from feeling like he is full of shit and can't fix my wipers - he told me the kit he uses is many thousands of pounds - something I doubt as it's the Launch x432 Diagun 2 and you can get them for less than £400 now - I don't know if you then have to spend
another let's say, £1600.00 on software. Anyway finally after this long and drawnout topic I would like to know can a competent auto electrician (NOT HIM - he is off the job as far as I am
concerned) fix my problem with the kit he has - or is he just talking shit? Also I would like your answers regarding as to what I say to this guy to let him know that I know he is full of shit
if this is indeed the case.
Warmest regards to all who help me in this most troubling of times.
Jez
Jez, irrespective of what you can get a Launch system for now, they were certainly many thousands a couple of years back. I don't think your electrician is necessarily shit either.
Modern cars can be a nightmare, with everything can controlled.
People think you just stick a code reader on, it tells you the fault and bobs your uncle.
A case in point is a mechanic mate of mine has asked me to cast an eye over a problem he has on a customers car. EAC fault (Electronic accelerator control) he has replaced the throttle pedal, throttle body, wiring loom and sent ECU off for test, yet still has same problem.
Anyway, back to your problem. I suggested earlier to check the twisted pair of wires (data cable) that run around the engine bay loom (I didn't make that clear) as a poor connection on this can cause probs like yours. It also runs from the com 2000 unit
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16v petrol engine TU5JP4 i have no wipers or wash
