steering problem

andysuzy206 · Post by **andysuzy206** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:32 pm

Hi can anyone help? Bought an old 51 2.0se was ok for an old one. Since having had it 4 weeks now have a steering problem.... pulling to right on acceleration and left on lifting foot? Had 1 faulty wishbone drivers side replaced this week and tracking done today! Ok up to 25mph and ok if you give it some!!!!! 30-65 all over the place!!! Any clues or help much appreciated Andy

gazza82 · Post by **gazza82** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:33 am

Obvious areas would be another worn arm, worn rack/track rods, hub bearings or new one incorrectly fitted, tracking not correct. And tyres ....tread depth, same type, pressures, etc.

138bhp thriugh a light car dies that ... it's called torque steer.I can get my daughter's to twitch easily with good tyres and suspension.

andysuzy206 · Post by **andysuzy206** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:31 am

Hi gazza82 thanks for the reply, was thinking the other wishbone needs doing. Track rods"look" ok, would the rack not do it at top end also? Get worse the quicker u go? Gonna swap front n back wheels tomorrow..... pirrelli for firenza! Also noticed passenger tyre has a couple of bulges!!! Any more ideas greatly recieved

Post by **Capncol** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:56 am

andysuzy206 wrote:Also noticed passenger tyre has a couple of bulges!!! Any more ideas greatly recieved

Yes. Change that tyre pronto.

gazza82 · Post by **gazza82** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:23 am

andysuzy206 wrote:firenza! Also noticed passenger tyre has a couple of bulges!!!

Well the name suggests Budget tyres, so they may not be great ... if you end up replacing the damaged one, buy two and initially put both on the back to scrub them in. Best tyres should ALWAYS go on rear, even on a FWD car.

If the torque steer goes with the different tyres, then that was the problem, otherwise it back to mechanical issues.

Karrot · Post by **Karrot** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:47 pm

REading with interest as mine is the same (51 2.0SE) Pulls right when I dump the foot, left when i let the pedal up, but also 'randomly' jinks to the right, then back left moments later as if following a track. Very noticeable when going round a right hand sweeping curve as the car can suddenly feel like its no longer steering enough.

Nice to know im not alone, tho sorry you have the issue, obviously.

MOT in 2 weeks, so im expecting a bill for 'something' worn, but now that we have some dry weather the jack and crowbar are coming out to test the linkages etc.

Karrot

gazza82 · Post by **gazza82** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:01 pm

I think it's good old "torque steer" .. if we have three 2.0 CC's that do it, it's probably a design issue. Rather than floor it, be more progressive with the loud pedal.

Again 138bhp through a light car ... most high powered, front-wheel drives do it unless there is some technical wizardry in the gearbox ...

andysuzy206 · Post by **andysuzy206** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:32 pm

It hasnt been there all the time.... torque steer is a constant I guess... this feels almost unsafe!! Because its in the mid range! Gonna swap front n backs first process of elimination I guess. Also as karrot describes on a right bend it feels like not enough turn? Any more ideas out there? Will keep posted if wheel swap makes a difference cheers Andy

gazza82 · Post by **gazza82** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:35 pm

"not enough turn" ... you mean understeer? Feels like the car is sliding gently outwards ...

my bet, tyres ... not gripping. What size tyres have you got now? CCs came with 15 or 16 inch wheels. 16s should be 205/45R16 which are not cheap if you want good ones ... we've got Hankook Evo V12's which are very good in wet and dry.

andysuzy206 · Post by **andysuzy206** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:21 pm

Not so much understeer.... more like it straightens back up a smidge.... not sure if the best way to describe it....karrot????? Any thing better? How much for a couple of hankook???? Cheers andy

gazza82 · Post by **gazza82** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:17 pm

£80 to £100 each depending where you get them ... try Blackcircles.com and mytyres.co.uk ...

andysuzy206 · Post by **andysuzy206** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:30 pm

Morning all.... changed wheels over this morning and to me its a liitle better but still there! Not so savage if u are gentle with the loud pedal as advised! But still there, tried the car on full lock slow both ways. Left seems fine.... right how ever quite clonky! Drive shaft??? Would this also cause the pull to right and jump back left under load??? Thanks for any ideas /clues in advance Andy

Karrot · Post by **Karrot** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:22 pm

Mine's definitely become worse over the past few days.

Driving on a flat Duel Carriage way without any truck tram lines and my 2.0SE will suddenly 'jink' right, them moments later back left, as if the car was following rails. The steering wheel pulls over to the right a little, so I straighten up again, then she jinks back to the left.

I have a poke about with the crowbar at the weekend and wishbones, track rod ends and ball joints all seem ok, But i have a suspicion that the drivers side wheel bearing is shot.

K

andysuzy206 · Post by **andysuzy206** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:29 pm

Well just an up date.... Had other wishbone replaced and car drives straight again! It did not look or feel as it was the problem... but its cured! Also un even wear on one tyre probably from when tracking was out so another check. Thanks to everyone for there input. Good luck to those with similar probs.. andy

Karrot · Post by **Karrot** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:26 am

Thanks for the update, glad you're sorted.

It confirms one suspicion I have for my baby, MOT failure coming in a week, so we'll see what the parts list is

K

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