Will faulty boot struts affect roof lowering?

[InkyAl]

I recently put in a new battery and then had an alternator replacement. Since then the roof won't go down. Could this be related? Or just unlucky coincidence. I have read some other posts on roof problems and have messed with white loops in the boot and the micro switch near the blind in the boot. I can't locate the other micro switches. I am not a very mechanical person..... help......

[GrandadMonkey]

I doubt if it is a coincidence. Did you use the correct battery disconnect and reconnect procedures? 206cc's can be a bit touchy if you don't.

[InkyAl]

No I didn't...I only found out about that after the battery was changed

Should I do one of those BSI reset things mentioned elsewhere? Or have I created a big problem?

[Capncol]

Worth a try

[InkyAl]

Specialist 'peugeot garage' won't look at the roof! Referred me to main dealer......which I cannot afford. So looks like I have a very small car now with no advantages. He also had no idea about the third high brake light! Great. Another dream smashed and broken. Can't do battery thing as I am not at all mechanical. Will regroup thoughts and muster strength and maybe attempt it at the weekend......

[GrandadMonkey]

My local independent Peugeot specialist won't touch the roof either. He refers them to the main dealer in Leicester. Can't say I blame him.

[gazza82]

He also had no idea about the third high brake light!

Not a great specialist then ... how do these people get away with this .. trade descriptions act?


What's wrong with the third brake light??? Could be all the bulbs have failed or connector has come loose. Boot lid lining comes out relatively easily after taking off handle (two halves clip together). Some lights have bulbs but some are also sealed so yo can't change them anyway.

[InkyAl]

I am not sure how people get away with it - Despite being a Peugeot 'specialist' He also informed me that he doesn't see many 206CC s at his garage - hmmmmm not surprised. He'll be seeing one less now!

The third high brake light has three 'bulbs' not working. I have tried to access the unit but cannot work out how. The garage did tell me that they don't know how to do it either - which made me feel slightly less hopeless. They also could not tell me if it was a sealed unit or not or LEDS or bulbs.

The only useful information he provided was that it would fail an MOT if I didn't deal with it - THATS WHY I AM HERE I wanted to scream but controlled myself and drove away in my white elephant of a car.

(crying huge tears.)

[Enright]

The only useful information he provided was that it would fail an MOT if I didn't deal with it

That's actually not true.
I can't remember if it was my car or my ex's 206 CC that passed it's last MOT with a failed brake light, but I spoke to my friendly local tester about it and he told me that as long as 2/3 of the lights are working then it's a pass. So if your car has one blown bulb out of 3, you'll still get through.
Or at least you will if the tester has read the rules properly and isn't a know-it-all, condescending prat.

That garage sounds useless. Name and shame.

[InkyAl]

Jacksons on Queens Road Leicester.

[GrandadMonkey]

Sounds like a trip to Robins & Day on Abbey Lane might be necessary...

Wycliffe in Lutterworth sorted out my daughter's 306 cabriolet several years ago and had a good reputation. Haven't used them recently though.

[InkyAl]

My roof is currently not going down (not sure why at the minute) and by checking another 206 for clues to the roof problem boot I have discovered that my boot lifting struts are not working - my boot lid weighs a ton! Will this stop the roof working?

[Enright]

The boot lid DOES weigh a ton, but it's a sealed hydraulic system that moves it so it should have enough power to do the job, and failed struts are very rare. I'm far more inclined to think that it's a control-system issue than the actual hardware. But without being able to analyse it properly it's like trying to do a Rubik's cube in a darkened room!

Edit: it would be far better to keep the progress of fault-finding to one thread so that people don't have to dig around for snippets of drip-fed information.
At the moment I can't work out what the roof is actually doing when you try to lower it.
Do you get a "bong" when the blind is across and the roof latches are undone?
Does the motor whirr or anything try to move when lifting the roof button, and then it errors out, or are you just getting beeps before it even TRIES to do anything?
This is all part of the fault-finding process - just diving in with the intention of ripping apart the hydraulic system is likely to cause more trouble than it fixes.

Moderators: I'm getting sucked into fault-diagnosis mode on the wrong thread here! Would it be possible to move this and the above post into InkyAl's other thread (here: http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14951) so that we can try and approach the problem logically?

[InkyAl]

Sorry... I started a post about roof struts and wandered on to thinking it may affect the roof.....

Roof wise;

Blind over in boot, engine on, windows up. Undo roof catches - no noise at all. (when trying to find the problem forgot to put the blind across one time and there was a chime noise at that point so I know that microswitch is ok - it was replaced recently anyway), the roof switch appears dead - no whirring no noise, nothing at all. I must say at this point that the centre console has been taken out recently to replace a cigarette lighter (for charging stuff not smoking!). We took the roof switch out to check that we hadn't pulled something out at this point - although I am pretty certain the roof has been down once since then anyway. I have checked fuses associated with the roof in the fuse area under the steering wheel. I had my battery replaced and then a week later the alternator. I have done the BSI reset as described on this site as the battery was not connected via the correct procedure - I didn't know until it was too late!

The roof was working great until a couple of weks ago and I had been taking it down regularly. Feeling very down about it as I have only had the car since August and its the first car I have had that I thought was good to look at and what I actually wanted.

[Capncol]

Topics merged as requested.
For info, the gas springs (boot struts) won't stop the roof working as the roof uses only the top bit to open, and that is controlled by the roof hydrualics.