engine immobilser fault then losts of issues since it was re

gbrk1c · Post by **gbrk1c** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:25 am

I have a Peugeot 206cc 52 plate.

Due to the recent cold weather it hasnt been starting and then it cut out and said engine immobiliser fault. It then wouldnt start at all and I had to get the car recovered to a Peugeot garage. The car code has now been obtained from Peugeot and it now starts.

However, following getting the car back, the the dash says 'ABS fault' and 'Airbag' fault....also the speedometer 'and' temp guage are not working and simply do not move. The peugeot dealer are suggesting the speedometer not working may be down to the drive shaft going..is this likely? However, I think the temp guage should be working?

I am not sure if the garage are simply trying to rip me off but coz its a Peugeot and all the problems that are wrong with it, I think it HAS to go to a Peugeot dealer.

Any advice people can give would be appreciated.

Rgds,

Kris

Post by **GrandadMonkey** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:38 am

If it is a 52 plate and on its original battery I'd suspect that the battery could be the source of your problems. I'd try a new battery myself.

gbrk1c · Post by **gbrk1c** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:59 pm

The battery went flat but was ok after that. It was only since it went into the garage (after the immobiliser fault had been sorted) that these errors occurred. Is a battery replacement now likely to set it all up right?

And is the speedo ran from the electircals (requiring a fuse) or is it linked to drive shaft?

Post by **GrandadMonkey** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:05 am

You don't say whether your car is an auto or manual Kris but both can be either. On models without a speedometer drive assembly in the transmission the vehicle speed data is received from the engine management ECU. This information is supplied from the wheel speed sensors and the ABS ECU. Your car is telling you it has an ABS fault, you told us that in your original post. If the battery is old and on the way out then it is likely to upset the electronics. Take it to Peugeot for their diagnosis by all means and let them sort it out (I don't know what they might have done to upset it), but I still suspect that if the battery is 7 years old a new genuine battery would probably solve your problems. (Of course the ABS fault may have occurred coincidentally but if you've had your brake fluid renewed on schedule every 2 years then I'd still suspect the battery.) I say a genuine battery because some aftermarket ones are not as tall and don't fit properly.

Good luck, let us know what transpires.

Ron

belco · Post by **belco** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:50 am

I had exactly the same sympton on my 206cc 02 Plate, yesterday morning due to recent snow it failed to start on a Monday morning ! Engine would not turn and said engine immobiliser fault. Rushed off to work in another car and called Recovery in teh evening. A two minute jump start from Recovery truck's portable Battery Pack got it going. Recovery Man pointed to Battery , saying the original FIMALL french battery had done a good job for 7 years and time it was replaced. Took it for a long drive cae back , switched off and checked it was start again. Nothing !!!

same immobiliser message. So been to Costco today and picked up a nice Bosch Battery, quick change and instant start.

I recommend the same for you if you haven't already done so.

gbrk1c · Post by **gbrk1c** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:35 pm

I have got it back from the garage now - the speedo and temp gauge is now fixed. The ABS and driver airbag light dont come on now. Apparently a lead between the ABS and ECU needed replacing. However, now the alarm and central locking button inside the car and alarm when you leave the lights (when you open the door leaving the lights on) on do not work. I am going to get a new battery to see if that has any effect.

It does start ok now and thats before the battery has been replace so I am dubious about buying a battery if it is not likely to be the issue in this instance.

I am not getting the above sorted out at the dealer as they charge the earth and the problems are non-essential, plus the MOT is due next month so wanna save me pennies for any other issues that may come up.

Post by **GrandadMonkey** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:50 am

If they worked before you took it to the garage, and they don't work now, I'd take it back to the garage again and tell them that. I'm pleased that you've made progress in solving the ABS fault. If you have no other symptoms and the battery seems fine then why replace it?

gbrk1c · Post by **gbrk1c** » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:58 pm

Well now I am getting a Cat converter fault and and an anti-pollution fault and the engine warning light flashes. Sometimes it drives ok then others it is very 'chuggish' in accelerating and moving and the pedal is pretty much to the floor to get the revs up. I have not had it at a garage yet (but its def not going to a dealer) but its going in on Monday. I dont know but think the 'timing belt', drive shaft or something needs doing. it seems to make 'clunky' noises when I turn right.

Ive had 2 years where it has been spot on and now its just one problem after the other. Am seriously considering getting these problems fixed and getting rid of it.

Post by **GrandadMonkey** » Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:13 am

Let us know how you get on. My guess is that it's a 2.0 litre engine. You don't tell us anything about its mileage or service history.
Do I take it that you never did put a new battery on it? Doesn't sound like it.
The sluggishness could be because it is going in to "limp home" mode to protect itself after the fault messages come up.
The cambelt may well be due for renewal but shouldn't be causing the symptoms you describe. The clunky noises when turning could be a driveshaft / c.v. joint. However, if your front tyres are old and worn that can cause strange noises and a scrubbing/hopping feeling on sharp turns.
As I say let us know how you get on. I hope the garage you take it to knows Peugeots really well.
Ron

gbrk1c · Post by **gbrk1c** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:08 pm

I didnt put a new battery on no, but wish I had of. Its been in the garage today and had to stop in there tonight as they need to investigate further. The bloke at athe garage said it sounds like a 'mis fire' when I dropped it off this morning, but after further research into this and in conjunction with the faults that are coming up now apparently these are signs of ecu needing to be replaced or ignition coils. Its just an ensemble of things that go wrong with it now. Think a replacement may now be required. Hopefully will know the cost tomorrow.

gbrk1c · Post by **gbrk1c** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:10 pm

forgot to say its a 1.6 cc black/silver model

Darth Bourj · Post by **Darth Bourj** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:06 pm

Clunking noises turning right! Probably lower ball joint arm £100 a side at an independent garage @ 1 hours lab. Or could be drop links to anti roll bar.

I try not to critiscise the CC, but IMO the suspension is a weak point.