Immobiliser fault

Electrical 206CC problems
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Capncol
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Re: Immobiliser fault

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You need a fusebox with EXACTLY the same number on it as the original.
Don't change the battery just yet. Do one thing at a time.
The battery may well be fine in any case. Economy mode just means voltage is down a bit so non vital functions have gone to sleep.
Cheers Col.


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Ok thank you. Will hold off on the battery. Xx

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Update

After some issues with finding a second hand fuse box with exactly the same numbers on it and then some issues with PayPal giving a seller my old address (from 4 years ago) so having to wait for it to be returned and sent again I've got it!!!!

Is the change over something my husband can do by simply swapping the boxes over (using the correct battery disconnection method of course) or will I need to get the nice auto electrician out again.

P.s. the display now states economy mode on the display. I presume from reading different posts this might mean the battery is low, central locking works as I've just been to the car to check if its the right fuse box.

Thanks in advance

Julie xx

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No reason he can't do it. You're right about economy mode, that should drop out when you start it.
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Update

Changed the fuse box, made sure everything was exactly as it was and NOTHING! Exactly the same. Battery completely dead now too!

Just need it working now :-(( was relying on this fuse box.

Really don't wanna take it back for a refund as I love it, Everything else was spot on with the car and for all I know it could be really simple like a snapped wire. Considering taking it to peugeot but don't fancy the bill.

Do you think I should phone the garage again and see if they'll cover the cost of fixing it if I pay for peugeot to diagnose the problem?

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Just in case my husband double checked all the fuses again and all were fine, he did a BSI reset following your advise on another thread and still nothing, he did try all the instruments after and the wipers weren't working at all, could this be the potential problem? Even though all the fuses seem ok?? Or is the wipers not working something to do with economy mode being active?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm think im going to ring peugeot tomorrow morning.

Thank you xx

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So the new fusebox is exactly the same make and has exactly the same numbers (all the numbers) as the old one?
You now have a choice as I see it
#1 Take it back to the original dealer you bought it from for refund or repair
#2 You take it on the chin and pay to get it fixed bearing in mind it could be expensive.

Once you start going too far down the DIY repair route, you potentially loose any come back from the original dealer as they can say you made it worse.
Cheers Col.


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Yes, everything was exactly the sane, all numbers etc on the white label.

So you don't think the wipers not working are connected to the problem?

Ill small the dealer I got it from in the morning and tell them I used an auto electrician as directed by them, I'll get my husband to out back the original fuse box so everything is exactly as it was.

If i go down the refund route , As I've put a new exhaust system (was MOT failure) and two front tyres on (illegal) will they have to refund them too? I have receipts.

Thanks again

Julie xx

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The trouble with getting anything secondhand is you don't really know if it's faulty or not. There may well of been a fault on the wiper circuit of new fuse box for all you know.
Did you recharge the battery before trying the new fusebox? Economy mode will knock out the wipers, courtesy lights & ,radio! If not, it's worth a try.

I don't think you would get a refund for your expenditure.
Cheers Col.


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Corvette C3 (my toy)

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No, the battery wasn't fully charged after the new fuse box went in.

Thanks for your advice, will keep you all posted.

Julie xx

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Hi again

Contacted the dealer and explained the situation again and where I'm up to and was met with a totally unhelpful attitude! I tried to be amicable but they were very rude. They said "sold as seen" so basically sort it yourself. I tried to explain that I still had consumer rights under the sales of goods act but they said they have video evidence of us driving the car off the car lot so was fully working and as they are auto dealers they know the law!!!! I was also told the car needs to be exactly the same as it was when I bought it if I am am going to reject the car, so that means fully working and able to start.

I told them if the car was able to start I wouldn't have a need to reject the vehicle. Then they had the cheek to offer me £900, yes £900 for the car which is hundreds less than what we paid for it! And said they're taking a gamble buying it back!!! I obviously refused and they said "that's all we've got!" The call then came to an abrupt end.

Anyway, I have contacted the trading standards to read them the lengthy letter I have written to the dealer and they say the letter is spot on and I'm well within my right to expect them to fix the car, pay for it to be fixed or get a refund. They also told me that instead of stating that they have 14 days to act upon the letter, that I was to write that they had 14 to actually get the car to a fully working and road legal condition.

I sent the letter recorded delivery and it was signed for Thursday. So ill keep you all posted. Might be of use to anyone that may come across a situation like this in the future.

Julie xx

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Sad that it has come to this, but stick to your guns. The law is on your side. A video of you driving off means diddley squat! Keep us posted and good luck.
Cheers Col.


206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
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Corvette C3 (my toy)

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So, the car is running at last. Still arguing with the motor company through trading standards. I took the car to peugeot In the end and cost me 300 to find that the fault came from an oxidized wire between immobiliser and the ECU!!! It was tiny, I've got the wire as proof and a receipt from peugeot. They said that the oxidization had to have been there before the point of sale.

But the main thing is, the car is running. Now to get on with other bits and bobs that need doing.

Have to add also that the good weather has meant plenty of topless driving and absolutely love it.

Julie xx