Peugeots, why I'd never buy another one.

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nekeefe
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Post by nekeefe »

This is going to be a long one but I need to get this off my chest without swearing or using hand gestures.

I first saw the CC on Top Gear when it was a concept car being billed for full production and seduced straight away. I saved up my pennies and ordered one as an import in April 2001 but was advised I would have to wait a whole six months for delievery. This seemed acceptable as I was getting a great car and getting about 20% off of UK retail and I could get by without a car temporarily if need be. Anyway, the company I was getting it through, Grey UK, changed their name to Snoop4 (since gone bust I think) within a month of me handing in my 10% deposit and then when I paid the remaining 90% (just under 10K) six months later the dealership lost the money for two weeks and the delivery company failed to deliver meaning that it all ended up with me picking the car up myself over a month overdue on Xmas eve 2001. I had been terribly unprofessionally treated by Snoop4 (who agreed to a partial refund), the dealership and especially the delivery company but I had my car and I was happy.

:evil:

Three months later I was going to see a friend in Reading and on the M3 northbound just south of junction 3 when all the cars on the road began to break heavily. I braked heavily and safely enough that when I saw the car behind me coming in quite fast was able to ease off the brake a bit to give them more room. Sadly by the time we had both stopped a third car managed to forget to brake and instead tried to veer in to the central reservation, he somehow missed the car behind me and then smashed into my rear axle, bounced out again and then hit my front axle. The car was still driveable and I drove round to my friends in Reading as that was closer but in the light of day next day it became apparent just how bad it was and I got a tow truck to take it away. I told the insurance company that the latch on the right hand side had been shook loose and that although the roof may have looked OK it was clearly affected in some way, sadly the insurance company (Elephant, wouldn't touch them with yours) hadn't passed this on and by the time the parts had finally came in they needed to wait on parts again. When they did eventually return the car there was a loud clanking noise from just above the rear axle which it turned out was a workman leaving a tool inside the car so it needed to be taken back to be checked out and removed. All in all due to a crappy insurance company and an innefficient garage the car was off the road for exactly three months. The low point came after one month when somebody from the legal company left a message on my answerphone at 2:00 on a Saturday to say they were removing the insurance from my courtesy car effective at midnight as they believed my car must be due to be written off as the damage was taking so long to repair. On phoning up the Elephant I couldn't even get them to agree that this was bad customer service, oh and somebody knocked lightly into my first hire car (Ka) causing me to lose the deposit and somebody keyed the second hire car (Astra) resulting in the same thing happening again. By the time I had got the car back summer was upon us and I was happy again, the car seemed to rattle a bit more than before but it is just quite a rattly car.

:evil: :evil:

So, speed forward to fifteen months later; waiting to join a roundabout and the car behind me decides I must have gone already and accelerates into the back of me. They didn't hit me very fast but sadly the combination of them being a 4x4 with a big scary bumper and me having a delicate metal roof assembly proved to be a bad one. This time I decided to choose the garage myself and put the car in to a Peugeot dealership but Axa (my current insurers) said I could not get a courtesy car if I did this (although presumably I could and claim it back) and the AA advised me that if I did this and the repair was shoddy the insurance company could effectively leave me out to dry so I buckled and went to one of their 'approved' repairers. Again we had to wait on parts for about four weeks but when I got the car back one of the panels was out of alignment by just under an inch and they said there was a fault with the 'central locking system' which they thought must have been caused by the previous accident. They fixed the panel alignment, somebody even said that they had noticed this fault previously but they obviously couldn't explain why if that was the case they had not corrected it. I soon found out that the central alarm fault was actually a fault of the roof alarm which would sound about 80% of the time when the roof was up as the car clearly believed it was not closed properly and just went beep beep beep beep (well you get the idea). I was told that they had never checked the roof believing it to have not been that bad an accident and in fact they believed it was nothing to do with the accident but would gladly book it in at the local Peugeot dealership on the understanding that I may be paying the bill. They had to wait on parts again for about three weeks this time and eventually abandoned Peugeot parts department prefering to source a part from a different dealership. I now have the car back over three months from the accident and it all seems to be working OK, the remote on the radio/CD is not properly working (don't know where that came from) but I'm willing to just let that go frankly. What I'm more sad about is that summer clearly ended on the very day I got by car back.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

So, I would be the first to admit that I've been unlucky in being involved in two accidents and the service that I had from Elephant was poor but the real culprit here to my mind is Peugeot parts. The Peugeot garage I have just dealt with has told me that if they want to request a part they are not allowed to phone Peugeot parts but have to submit an order by fax. Once Peugeot parts have this fax they have four days in which to come back with a provisional date, this is pathetic. I think it's a lovely car but (as I believe I've said on a post before) how did Peugeot make it.

As for me, next time I think I'll buy a German car, maybe if I'm lucky I can win myself a Porsche on here http://www.bestofthebest.co.uk.

:rolleyes:

OK, that's it, rant over!

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Post by TheMinel »

awww I'm sorry for your bad luck! We are all aware of peugeot's appalling customer service (apparently in Italy, where I am from is even worse according to a few forums, with dealers ignoring warranty work etc), but I think that you have been extremely unlucky with the 2 accidents, and for that reason you HAD to deal with them. Fingers crossed, I try and stay away from the Zoo as much as possible, but of course if you HAVE to deal with them, you realise what a bunch of monkeys they are.
My question is though: do you really think other brands' customer services are much better? I wouldn't bet on it...... ;)
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Post by Erm »

ok well that was one long post and i only skim read it but..........

dont think u can blame peugeot for anything there to be honest and aint a reason for not buying one ever again!!!!

a better reason would be its poor construction from new, but after accidents like you had specially the first time the car will never be the same once its repaired and that goes for ALL cars
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Post by Riss »

:( Oh dear sounds like u had a very bad time :(
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Post by O_Dogg »

You must be the unluckiest driver on the road mate. I agree that Peugeot Customer Service is very poor, but I think alot of your problems were down to your insurance companies mate. Accidents sometimes cant be avoided if some numpty drives into the back of you, hope your luck changes mate.

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Post by Derek »

quickly read everything and also think you are wrong to slate peugeot. your biggest problems seem to be insurance companies and like erm said, it's normally the case that once a car has had serious accident damage then it's often never the same.

with the header i was expecting to read a long list of problems created by peugeot but instead it's mainly about import and insurance companies :rolleyes:

i would be the first to slate peugeot or their dealers but not in this instance.

also don't expect other marques to be a massive improvement as it isn't always the case.

good luck with whatever car you decide to get next - feel free to mention your reg number so no one on here ever buys ur car as it sounds absolutely f****d :P
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Post by Mr_AWOL »


As for me, next time I think I'll buy a German car, maybe if I'm lucky I can win myself a Porsche on here http://www.bestofthebest.co.uk.
Maybe you will learn from your mistakes? Doesnt matter whether your car is german, french or japanese, most important things are:

1 Buy from a dealership. This way you dont have the hassle of shite service which almost EVERYONE gets with imports
2 Go with a reputable insurance company (loadsa ppl i know hate elephant)
3 If you have an accident dont be so pathetic as to allow them to push you into taking the car where you dont want to
4 Make sure this place is also a dealership, ESPECIALLY for something as specific as a cc roof! If the monkeys at pug seeing loads of em cant get the hang of it, why should your local accident repair monkeys be any better?

I have bought my last three cars brand new from canterbuyry motor company peugeot - all good cars and looking back the problems i've had with them have only ever been relatively minor

Wow - a great long rant of me own :D Does p155 me off tho when ppl expect to get a UK car and UK service from an importer! :no:

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Post by tiranova »

ok well that was one long post and i only skim read it but..........

dont think u can blame peugeot for anything there to be honest and aint a reason for not buying one ever again!!!!

a better reason would be its poor construction from new, but after accidents like you had specially the first time the car will never be the same once its repaired and that goes for ALL cars
Just to add my bit, I think Erm is right, it aint Peugeots fault its your insurance and the importers.
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Post by Erm »

SHOCK SHOCK HORROR!!!! people agree with me :shock:

is that a pig in the air? :rotfl:
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Post by Derek »

not a pig ........... a pink elephant erm ;)
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Post by Sam1974 »

Hi

Sorry to hear about all your problems, but have to agree others that sounds more bad luck with accidents and ins comp.

Have a look in the rejection section and you will find people who have had cars of the road longer just from Pug bad service and build quality, without accidents etc.

But then again if you do it will give you even more reason to never buy a Pug :)

Regards

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Post by nekeefe »

:shock: OK, don't think I take these things personally or anything but....
1 Buy from a dealership. This way you dont have the hassle of shite service which almost EVERYONE gets with imports
I saved over 3K by going with an import. This is no longer possible but given that I was willing to wait six months I would do this again tomorrow for the same saving. Getting mucked about by the Peugeot dealership in France (they lost my money, refused to pass the car over to the delivery company and then failed to provide any of the promised English documentation) at the end however was not fun.
2 Go with a reputable insurance company (loadsa ppl i know hate elephant)
Yeah, now that is one lesson I have learnt, ditched them for AXA as soon as I could.
3 If you have an accident dont be so pathetic as to allow them to push you into taking the car where you dont want to
I was adamant that I wasn't going to take it anywhere non-Peugeot but I took advice from the Citizens Advice Bureau and the AA on this and they pointed out:
1. A Peugeot garage will probably just farm out the bodywork to a back street abortionist.
2. I wouldn't be entitled to a complimentary hire car, I could however hire a car myself up to the quality of a CC but I would then have to ensure the repairs were done in a resonable time and claim back for it. If I had the money for hiring a CC for three months and then waiting on the insurance company to pay it back (which they haven't with my excess yet) I would have bought a far nicer car to start with.
3. If anything goes wrong with the repairs the insurance company can just say "told you so".

However the approved garage it was taken to was actually a Renault garage so next summer when somebody hits me I'll take it to one of their approved garages that is also a Peugeot garage, that's the only way to win.

4 Make sure this place is also a dealership, ESPECIALLY for something as specific as a cc roof! If the monkeys at pug seeing loads of em cant get the hang of it, why should your local accident repair monkeys be any better?
Yeah, fair point.
I have bought my last three cars brand new from canterbuyry motor company peugeot - all good cars and looking back the problems i've had with them have only ever been relatively minor

Wow - a great long rant of me own Does p155 me off tho when ppl expect to get a UK car and UK service from an importer!
:x

Do you want a fight or something? There has actually been an EU law passed against unfair discrimination of this sort from dealer garages so absolutely I would expect it. If you moved to another part of the country and started using a different garage would you seriously be happy if they treated your car as a second class car?

I also note a lot of people seem to think it acceptable that the four times I have had to wait on Peugeot parts department it has taken an everage of about 4 weeks.

I guess part of the problem with these things is you don't know how bad these things are unless they happen to you and I have no real reason to believe other cars are better but Which did recently publish a reliability survey based on breakages and repairs putting Peugeot in the bottom category. If you combine this with the fact that the CC is nowhere near so standard as other Peugeots I guess the writing is on the wall....

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Post by CB »

What doesn't help is people firing off their opinions to your original post admitting they had "looked through it quickly" or "skim read it". If this guy has spent the time writing down his experiences in order for others to maybe learn something from them, then the least respect he deserves is for people to read his comments before giving him your opinions and even slating him!
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Post by Erm »

greg..... ur being extremely pathetic again

yeh ok i skim read it but his reasons for not buying a peugeot ever again really dont sound right......oh but this is IN MY OWN OPINION!!!!!!!

:rolleyes: someone really needs to grow up
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