Exhaust

Sara · Post by **Sara** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:28 pm

Has anyone had to buy a new exhaust. I reversed into someone just before Christmas and have damaged the car more than I thought

I need a new back and middle box. I have been quoted Â£160 by kwik fir, is this a good price :rolleyes:

Could use some advice
Sara

carl · Post by **carl** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:43 pm

Sounds like a prime opportunity to get something stainless on there, IMHO.

teddy206 GTi · Post by **teddy206 GTi** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:54 pm

Have alook on here.
http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/exhausts_make.php

Do you really need a new mid section and back box? I can see why the mid section can be damaged (the connection between the 2 parts is weaker) but i cant see how the back boz could be damaged...

The mid section wont fit straight on. You will need to pay somebody Â£25 to cut a 3 inch section and weld the end back on where it joins near the cat.

Sara · Post by **Sara** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:26 pm

Has anyone actually had to buy a new exhaust, i could really do with some advise. The kwik fit & the dealer have told me i need to place the whole exhaust even though its the middle and back box, that means the cat too Â£800-Â£1000 :rolleyes:

Sara

WebCode · Post by **WebCode** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:39 pm

Kwik Fit are Talkin outa their Ass.. (and they should be renamed Kwik SH*t) The cat doesn't have to replaced.. Unless you have bent the down pipe section between the Cat and the manifold..

If you haven't caused any damage to that area then they can cut the pipe between the Cat and the centre box.. Then a replacement centre box section goes in it place..

If you look at this diagram you will see what I mean, Although this is for the 206GTi, but you get the idea:.. http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/exhausts_de ... ordID=2505

Note that this system is split into three parts.. 1: Cat, 2: Centre, 3: Back Box..

Alternatively, go to an independant who should be able to Custom build one, or repair the damage..

Sara · Post by **Sara** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:33 pm

the cc exhaust does not have a join near the cat like the gti does and the gti has a different back box

teddy206 GTi · Post by **teddy206 GTi** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:52 pm

None of them have a join in the exhaust near the cat.
You have to pay somebody to cut the existing pipe after the cat.

I think it's just easier/cheaper when the car is new to have the cat and middle box in one section. My GTi is like this. Thats why i know you have to get the exhaust cut. You cant replace the cat everytime you need an exhaust...

The exhaust in the diagrams only fit single lambda cars as well. Thats why i said you have to get the new section chopped as it is too long to fit on a 2 lambda car.

Whats the difference with the backbox?

carl · Post by **carl** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:03 pm

Your local Powerflow dealer should be able to knock something up that is:
a) better, and
b) cheaper

I mean, it's only bent bits of tubes.

PS: Anyone know how many cats there are? When I had an Impreza there were two -- one in the downpipe and one in the centre section. Which meant you could replace the middle one with a straight bit of pipe and still pass the MOT

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:58 pm

my exhaust the other week corroded between the back box and centre pipe. if it hadn't been replaced under warranty then ecosse would have replaced the centre pipe with no problems so i don't see how you can't buy a centre pipe and back box if that's all that's damaged.

going by pug prices, i would get an aftermarket brand - would probably be better quality too going by my experience.

WebCode · Post by **WebCode** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:29 pm

I only used that 206GTi diagram to show that the centre pipe is available seperately from the Cat...

Note:
1: ALL CC's have two lambda sensors fitted..
2: The 206 3 or 5 Door centre pipes will NOT fit any of the CC's..
3: The Back Box on the 1.6CC is the same one as fitted to the 206XSi..
4: The Back box on the 2.0CC is the same as the 206GTi..

So you need to get the correct part numbers for the aftermarket centre section.. Most exhaust places should be able to get that info from the likes of Arvin Merator (Timax) or Bosal etc

I will also say that the Peugeot Exhaust material is Very Very Good as it is made from comparatively thick wall steel tubing. Compared to the aftermarket stuff that is thin and nasty.. It is unfortunately only that rear flange that is a weak point as the condensation sits on top of it and rots it from inside out.. Its a common failure on the 106/206/306/Saxo etc
Mine did it a month or so back. And that was after 60,000 miles.

So I had a small stainless piece made that sits between the centre box and back box.. Cost me Â£60 total..

Carl: There is Only 1 Cat

rob · Post by **rob** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:08 am

after a mad journey to Saras last night (200 mile round trip) I had a look at the exhaust, took some piccies just in case (her hubbyDavid must of thought it funny to see me lying under her car at 9:30 in an evening with a camera).

I spoke to a few people in the Derby area this morning. It seems that there is now a repair kit for the exhaust on the CC as people were complaining at the price of the full system when only a small part is faulty.

Apparently the flange that joins on to the rear box is know to be of poor quailty and generally the rear box is OK.

So Saturday mornig she is heading south to see if we can sort her car out. So I am not bitter only kidding Lyndon

and am still here trying to help you top less lot

We will keep you posted and will take some piccies to put on here so that others have the right info and save themselves all this hassle. I think this repair that she was quoted between Â£800 and Â£1000 for can be done for less than Â£200.

Post by **Lyndon** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:47 pm

excellent work rob

your really a asset to this forum

Sara · Post by **Sara** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:16 pm

still a mad fool for driving over here at that time of night, the things people do to get out of night school :rolleyes:

I am already planning how to spend the money Rob is going to save me.

Thanks again Rob, your a star

Sara

rob · Post by **rob** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:06 pm

excellent work rob

your really a asset to this forum

I think Lyndon mistyped and instead of 'ASSET' he meant to put 'ASS HOLE'

Only kidding. Hope to have the pictures up by sunday.

Sara, with the money you save buy a new digital camera that works :rolleyes:

Sara · Post by **Sara** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:10 pm

ooohhh, at lest i have one and don't have to borrow my dads, mine just needs new batteries

Sara