Struggling to get roof working :-(

All your roof problems here.
Banditboy
Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Banditboy »

Hi all.
Bought this 206cc (2005) knowing that the roof wasn't working and with me being handy(ish) at most things I expected it being a quick fix..... I wish. :(

Done everything I can think of or seen on here but nothing... Checked some micro switches, or at least I think I have, (which are most likely to fail)? fluid level ok, removed that reset fuse thingy for 15 mins.. Nothing. :?
Pump has never made a sound.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

BB

IanL
Posts: 1558
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by IanL »

This video will help you to understand what is involved.

Have you checked both the latch (clamps roof to windscreen pillars) microswitches? They must both work for the roof to function. If the windows do not go down when the roof-open switch is operated, the problem is often one or both of them.

Failing that, I think it would be a good idea to get Peugeot Planet 2000 diagnostic system onto the job.

Banditboy
Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Banditboy »

Still no joy, but i did manage to get the boot lock into home position by pressing the motor relay, did the trick.
Ordered an ECU off eBay to try, and if that fails I'll just take a c off the boot and it'll be then known as a 206c (coupe).
Women told me the roof had been working until recently, maybe she was telling pork pies????
John

IanL
Posts: 1558
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by IanL »

If you want help, be specific about what you have tried and what result, if any, was achieved.

Have you checked the interlock for the boot blind?

Banditboy
Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Banditboy »

boot blind interlock checks out fine, going to check the roof latches tomorrow...
Thought I would've cracked this by now.

Appreciate any help..... :thumbs:

User avatar
gazza82
Posts: 2129
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:41 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by gazza82 »

Only one day ... Had a Peugeot before? ;)
Family Fleet: ex-Cayman Green 206 CC 2.0 LE, Indigo Blue 206 1.4 HDi Hatchback, Subaru BRZ Auto, Alfa Romeo MiTo

Banditboy
Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Banditboy »

Had a 306 dirty diesel a few years ago...... Cracking car, oh so simple to maintain

IanL
Posts: 1558
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by IanL »

Banditboy wrote:..... removed that reset fuse thingy for 15 mins.. Nothing. :?
Not that it is likely to help in this instance, but I take it you are referring to removing the shunt in the BSI (cabin fusebox). Be aware that removing the shunt does not reboot the BSI, as some have publicised. It leaves the LSI chip (the brain) powered, so no reboot occurs.

The correct procedure is to remove the battery positive lead. Read here.

User avatar
Capncol
Posts: 3761
Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:40 pm
Location: Reading & Southampton

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Capncol »

Banditboy (Suzuki???)
Please read post#4
Cheers Col.


206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)

When requesting help of a technical nature, please give as much detail of the fault as possible along with details of exact model, engine size & type, gearbox, year, mileage, and any relevant work carried out to try to solve the problem to help us help you.
Better still, put the details in your signature.

User avatar
gazza82
Posts: 2129
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:41 pm
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by gazza82 »

IanL wrote:
Banditboy wrote:..... removed that reset fuse thingy for 15 mins.. Nothing. :?
Not that it is likely to help in this instance, but I take it you are referring to removing the shunt in the BSI (cabin fusebox). Be aware that removing the shunt does not reboot the BSI, as some have publicised. It leaves the LSI chip (the brain) powered, so no reboot occurs.

The correct procedure is to remove the battery positive lead. Read here.

Negative earth car .. take NEGATIVE LEAD off first, replace last! Much safer. If you have ever touched the end of the spanner to the car body while undoing the live lead you will not do it twice! (and it cost me a new spanner!). The 206 doesn't help by having that stupid quick release clamp on the wrong terminal!
Family Fleet: ex-Cayman Green 206 CC 2.0 LE, Indigo Blue 206 1.4 HDi Hatchback, Subaru BRZ Auto, Alfa Romeo MiTo

IanL
Posts: 1558
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by IanL »

In general, true, but the quick release clamp does not need a spanner, just a couple of fingers, which are, to 12V, virtual insulators, so I think it's not a problem with the 206.

Banditboy
Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Banditboy »

replacement ecu not done the trick.... :scratch: :scratch:

If it is the roof lockdown micro's, and as I understand will this stop the roof opening process from starting?
But lets say for instance if these two switches were ok... would the windows go down, and then the roof start to open until it got as far as a faulty switch then stop the process?
Or is it all or nothing with these micro's, one not working will never let the process start wherever it is in the mechanism??

Very frustrating. :censored:

IanL
Posts: 1558
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by IanL »

The roof hand-latch microswitches are wired in series, so both must function correctly for the system to function. If one is open, neither window will go down.

Banditboy
Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by Banditboy »

Thx Ian,
If it was these tho would the car have that annoying alarm going off like it does from the boot micro switches?

IanL
Posts: 1558
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands

Re: Struggling to get roof working :-(

Post by IanL »

No, if I forget to undo one, nothing happens when I try to lower the roof = no sound at all.