13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
- mo7amed3arafa
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13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
I've had this high fuel consumption and loss of power and don't know what to do????
- Capncol
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
You keep asking for help, but when people ask you questions to help get to the bottom of the problem, you don't answer them!
From your "bad acceleration" post
Are you saying you changed the belt and then had it rechecked by a Peugeot specialist?
I'm still not convinced the belt is on correctly, but assuming it is.
Your throttle body won't cause poor fuel consumption on it's own. The fuelling is down to other factors.
The throttle butterfly isn't controlled by the pedal directly, it's controlled by the ECU which looks at other variables such as pedal position, load on engine, engine speed etc: ( which is probably why it wasn't operating as you thought it should)
You can reset the throttle body like this-
• switch on the ignition,
• leave the ignition on for at least 10 seconds (do not switch off the ignition
during these 10 seconds and do not press the accelerator pedal),
• switch off the ignition and leave it off for 15 seconds (the ECU records the
motorised throttle programming parameters in the EEPROM - this is the
POWER LATCH phase),
Warning: Do not switch the ignition on during these 15 seconds.
You say
FWIW It still sounds like a timing issue to me.
(No answer)
From "Catalytic Converter fault and very high fuel consumption"
Re: Catalytic Converter fault and very high fuel consumption
Postby gazza82 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:39 pm
If you are over fuelling, the cat won't last long.
Could be many things. Get the fault codes read.
Hang on ... You had problems back in August with high fuel consumption and poor running didn't you? Got that fixed or still the same? Back then you said you had PP2000 ... read the fault codes.
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It seems to me that you get an idea in your head, (i.e. first the throttle body, then it was the lambda) and you ignore all other advice or questions and simply want us to give you a yes/ no answer.
All your troubles appear to have started with the cam belt change, so I would be looking there.
We could explain in some detail how to check the components you suspect are faulty, but you are reluctant to pass on to us all the details for some reason, for instance, you haven't said if you re-calibrated the throttle body or not (which at the time you were convinced was the problem) before going on to suspect the lambda.
Without ALL the information, how do you expect us to help?
It's very hard to diagnose something that's not in front of you as it is, even harder when someone won't answer pertinent questions, or won't try doing something that has been asked (like providing fault codes)
Please carefully read the bit in red at the bottom of all my posts
As I said before- you can carry on poking & hoping, or you can help us to help you.
Good luck sorting it out (and I really do mean this) and I hope you resolve it, but I personally won't be responding to any further postings unless you make some attempt to furnish all the information requested.
Sorry but I have got better things to do that type out long drawn out posts asking the same questions over and over.
I earn my living repairing cars and boats - You get my (30+ years) experience for free on here!
From your "bad acceleration" post
Are you saying you changed the belt and then had it rechecked by a Peugeot specialist?
After changing the timing belt the cars acceleration became a little bit slower
I removed the timing belt and checked it and everything is alright.
I went to a specialized Peugeot mechanic who took off the timing belt and checked everything and used the correct pins as marked on the timing belt and checked the timing.
He told me that everything is alright and the cars timing is good.
I'm still not convinced the belt is on correctly, but assuming it is.
Your throttle body won't cause poor fuel consumption on it's own. The fuelling is down to other factors.
The throttle butterfly isn't controlled by the pedal directly, it's controlled by the ECU which looks at other variables such as pedal position, load on engine, engine speed etc: ( which is probably why it wasn't operating as you thought it should)
You can reset the throttle body like this-
• switch on the ignition,
• leave the ignition on for at least 10 seconds (do not switch off the ignition
during these 10 seconds and do not press the accelerator pedal),
• switch off the ignition and leave it off for 15 seconds (the ECU records the
motorised throttle programming parameters in the EEPROM - this is the
POWER LATCH phase),
Warning: Do not switch the ignition on during these 15 seconds.
You say
So do you have any fault codes?I tried reprogramming it via PP2000
FWIW It still sounds like a timing issue to me.
(No answer)
From "Catalytic Converter fault and very high fuel consumption"
Re: Catalytic Converter fault and very high fuel consumption
Postby gazza82 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:39 pm
If you are over fuelling, the cat won't last long.
Could be many things. Get the fault codes read.
Hang on ... You had problems back in August with high fuel consumption and poor running didn't you? Got that fixed or still the same? Back then you said you had PP2000 ... read the fault codes.
(No answer)
It seems to me that you get an idea in your head, (i.e. first the throttle body, then it was the lambda) and you ignore all other advice or questions and simply want us to give you a yes/ no answer.
All your troubles appear to have started with the cam belt change, so I would be looking there.
We could explain in some detail how to check the components you suspect are faulty, but you are reluctant to pass on to us all the details for some reason, for instance, you haven't said if you re-calibrated the throttle body or not (which at the time you were convinced was the problem) before going on to suspect the lambda.
Without ALL the information, how do you expect us to help?
It's very hard to diagnose something that's not in front of you as it is, even harder when someone won't answer pertinent questions, or won't try doing something that has been asked (like providing fault codes)
Please carefully read the bit in red at the bottom of all my posts
As I said before- you can carry on poking & hoping, or you can help us to help you.
Good luck sorting it out (and I really do mean this) and I hope you resolve it, but I personally won't be responding to any further postings unless you make some attempt to furnish all the information requested.
Sorry but I have got better things to do that type out long drawn out posts asking the same questions over and over.
I earn my living repairing cars and boats - You get my (30+ years) experience for free on here!
Cheers Col.
206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
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When requesting help of a technical nature, please give as much detail of the fault as possible along with details of exact model, engine size & type, gearbox, year, mileage, and any relevant work carried out to try to solve the problem to help us help you.
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206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
When requesting help of a technical nature, please give as much detail of the fault as possible along with details of exact model, engine size & type, gearbox, year, mileage, and any relevant work carried out to try to solve the problem to help us help you.
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- gazza82
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
Think he asks the same questions on 206info.co.uk too ... :-(
Family Fleet: ex-Cayman Green 206 CC 2.0 LE, Indigo Blue 206 1.4 HDi Hatchback, Subaru BRZ Auto, Alfa Romeo MiTo
- Capncol
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
And what are their answers?
(I would genuinely try to help him. He's just not forthcoming with replies)
(I would genuinely try to help him. He's just not forthcoming with replies)
Cheers Col.
206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
When requesting help of a technical nature, please give as much detail of the fault as possible along with details of exact model, engine size & type, gearbox, year, mileage, and any relevant work carried out to try to solve the problem to help us help you.
Better still, put the details in your signature.
206cc 1.6ltr (Wifes toy)
Mercedes ML (workhorse)
Corvette C3 (my toy)
When requesting help of a technical nature, please give as much detail of the fault as possible along with details of exact model, engine size & type, gearbox, year, mileage, and any relevant work carried out to try to solve the problem to help us help you.
Better still, put the details in your signature.
- gazza82
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
Similar ... although if it is the same person, he's now got an overheating issue and wonders if the lambda could be causing it...
But similar responses ... ie little in the way of listening, and sense he's check of fixed the issue, or any further information ...
I am getting him the benefit of the doubt and using "English as a second language" as part of the excuse but I just don't know whether to bother ...
UPDATE: Our friend on 206info.co.uk has now realised his overheating may be down to the fact he's loosing coolant ... bingo! ... but he immediately suspects the head gasket and suggests checking if some "wonder cure" ... no checks, no looking for tell-tale signs, just jumping at conclusions ... I've since found out this other car is a 1.4 206 so do we have someone with two cars and two identities, or are all 206 owners from Egypt the same ... ??? (Slowly losing the will to live!)
But similar responses ... ie little in the way of listening, and sense he's check of fixed the issue, or any further information ...
I am getting him the benefit of the doubt and using "English as a second language" as part of the excuse but I just don't know whether to bother ...
UPDATE: Our friend on 206info.co.uk has now realised his overheating may be down to the fact he's loosing coolant ... bingo! ... but he immediately suspects the head gasket and suggests checking if some "wonder cure" ... no checks, no looking for tell-tale signs, just jumping at conclusions ... I've since found out this other car is a 1.4 206 so do we have someone with two cars and two identities, or are all 206 owners from Egypt the same ... ??? (Slowly losing the will to live!)
Family Fleet: ex-Cayman Green 206 CC 2.0 LE, Indigo Blue 206 1.4 HDi Hatchback, Subaru BRZ Auto, Alfa Romeo MiTo
- mo7amed3arafa
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
I'm sorry my friends but I haven't found any fault codes and the cam belt was checked more than once and I still have high fuel consumption which is driving me crazy so I was thinking to check up the fuel injectors and the lambda sensor I'm sorry my friends but I'm in a situation which makes me helpless and the mechanics in Egypt just care about only one thing which is less work and more money which makes the lazy cash lovers with no conscience
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Tony_termite
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
pre cat o2 sensor or maf sensor if you use supermarket fuel more than likely be the 02 sensor
- gazza82
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Re: 13 L/100 Km Fuel Consumption!!!
He's in Egypt! And this car has lots of issues ...
Family Fleet: ex-Cayman Green 206 CC 2.0 LE, Indigo Blue 206 1.4 HDi Hatchback, Subaru BRZ Auto, Alfa Romeo MiTo