peugeot 206 1.1 V reg

[cj5787]

Hi all i have a peugeot 206 1.1 V reg, and it will not start.

It did a little jerk like you hit a pot hole and engine cut off, so then I would just bumb it still on the move and it would be fine. but then one day it jerked cut off and would not start, I got it started and was trying to get it home, it was kangarooing on the way with no power I pulled in and turned it off and then it would not start up again, when I got it home we had no spark so i went and got a 2nd coil pack and still no luck, Then I went and got a 2 2nd crank sensor still no lock, I have looked at all the fuses and all is good i had a look at all the earth cable and they look fine, I got electrician tester and there is no power going to the coil pack is there a way to test the ecu,

[Capncol]

The way to test it is with a diagnostic code reader, It will point you in the right direction. Otherwise (as you have found) you are guessing, and you will end up spending far more in the long run.

[cj5787]

I have had a code reader on it and could not pick up what was wrong with it so not going to spend 50 pound again, they said you will need a sleeper code reader, and peugeot cost to much and the car is not worth it, I think it is down to the ecu is not turning off the immobiliser but can not test it, the car is only a run around for the wife, they said they will give us 110 for scrap, so if I can not find it out why then the car will be going to be scraped, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT COULD BE DOWN TOO ??

I just wont to give it one more go be for i do scrap it.
I know a lot of people say get in on a code reader i just don't have the money too so if there is a way i can narrow it down,

[GrandadMonkey]

As Capncol says, without a code-reader one can only guess - which can work out expensive. If you've checked the obvious things like connections to the battery and earth connections then with a car worth only about £500 max in good condition it is sometimes better to call it a day and buy a newer better one. I'd scrap it now before wasting any more money on it. Put the £110 towards a better reliable one for your wife.

[Capncol]

Where abouts are you. Someone here may be able to help you. I know a couple of people on here have Peugeot planet and may be willing to give it a shot.
Someone who knows how to use a diagnostic system won't just be looking for fault codes. Live data will tell you a lot. How have you checked the sparking?
Assuming no sparks, your problem could be anything from a faulty key transponder or receiver / ecu / wiring / connection plugs / imobiliser / battery / double function relay / engine sensors
(I noticed you used 2nd hand, how do you know these weren't faulty?) etc etc.
Discounting the sparks you are then into the fuel side with all the associated sensors, components & wiring.

[gazza82]

I have had a code reader on it and could not pick up what was wrong with it so not going to spend 50 pound again

That could simply be down to them using the wrong code reader ... not all standard ones work properly with a Pug especially early ones. V reg ... 2000?

[GrandadMonkey]

Have you seen this?

http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15148

[cj5787]

Thank you for all your replays, I live in shropshire Telford if anyone lives down this way, i have been testing the coil at the lead as well be for it goes in to the coil and no power, the bis is reading the key as it is making the sound also the spare key, I am thinking about scraping it if it is some thing that will cost to much to sort. I just not sore where and what wires i should be testing??
I have checked the earth but will have a look at them again now I have it in the shed, I have cheeked the fuse box and all look ok, i did get a 2nd relay for under the ecu but that could not be working, the relay does make a clicking noise when you turn the key.

If you like to know anything else then just ask

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP

[Capncol]

So you have checked sparking only with a meter on coil input?
You haven't tried the spark plugs? (engine cranking)

[cj5787]

I have tried new spark plug, and we are using meter reader

[cj5787]

Where i think it is the ecu as the fule pump not working one when we put a live wire on it off the battery

[cj5787]

NO one got any ides what it could be down too, or has any one had this problem, and how to go about testing with out a code reader has i have not got the money to pay for one



or is it that no one wont to help??

[GrandadMonkey]

Bearing in mind that you are asking for help on a forum that deals specifically with owners of the Peugeot 206cc Coupe Convertible you've already had a lot of help and advice from owners who will not be familiar with your 1.1 engine. Our petrol engined cars have the 1.6 and 2.0 litre 16v engines which are completely different from yours.

It is not that we don't want to help you but you might be better off asking on the http://206info.co.uk/ forum which caters more for the owners of the hatchback versions.

[Capncol]

It's not that we don't want to help, but you aren't exactly helping us.
In your first post you said

I got it home we had no spark

post #5 I asked you how you checked the sparking

How have you checked the sparking?

in your post #9 you said

i have been testing the coil at the lead as well be for it goes in to the coil and no power,

(which to me doesn't tell me how you deduce no sparking) post #9 I asked had you only checked with a meter or had you checked at the spark plugs with engine cranking

So you have checked sparking only with a meter on coil input?
You haven't tried the spark plugs? (engine cranking)

to which you replied

I have tried new spark plug, and we are using meter reader

None of which has told me whether you had actually seen sparks or not at the plugs or whether it was based on meter readings alone, despite this I gave you a list of more than 8 likely causes of your problem.

Assuming no sparks, your problem could be anything from a faulty key transponder or receiver / ecu / wiring / connection plugs / imobiliser / battery / double function relay / engine sensors
(I noticed you used 2nd hand, how do you know these weren't faulty?) etc etc.
Discounting the sparks you are then into the fuel side with all the associated sensors, components & wiring

.....and if I sat down and listed ALL the various sensors connection points and components, I could probably list 50 or more individual things to check!! (and that's before I get into the mechanical side of things such as cambelts, valves, head gaskets and the like)
Then how would you check them?
Would you keep buying more & more 2nd hand parts (that may be faulty) until you stumble into the cause of the problem, especially as you are trying to do this cheaply?
I personally think it's immobiliser related which is why I specifically wanted to know if you had actually seen a spark at the plugs or not (a meter won't tell you this BTW) and then with a series of question and answers to eliminate certain things, I may have been able to narrow it down a bit. It's hard enough trying to do "armchair diagnostics" as it is- without seeing the car in front of you , but when people don't give you the full picture it is nigh on impossible.

All this is still no substitute for a good diagnostic machine and user.

(This was just my input, Grandadmonkey and Gazza tried to help you too!)

or is it that no one wont to help??

So finally how is this *no one wanting to help you*??