please help someone - lots of electrical faults I think!!

Electrical 206CC problems
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We'll I've had the diagnosis from peugeot - some kind of micro switch is broken causing the roof to fail. They dont know why speedo is working and say they need further tests to diagnose that, which involves taking the gearbox out! As for airbag fault - well, surprise surprise they need to make further investigations into that to! Needless to say, I won't be paying for those either.
The dealer has offered two ways of going forward with this - I can take the car back to Coventry and he will try to rectify the roof and speedo faults but the airbag fault will be mine to sort out, or if I want to pay an extra £100 he will consider taking this peugeot back and giving me another one that he has which is a year newer and has done 40k miles less that he will guarantee everything works on it. No leather interior in this newer car though.
Have any of you got any suggestions about either of these offers? I would really appreciate any advice here. The dealer is in Coventry and I'm in chesterfield, so,we are not local to each other at all.
I concerned that if I take the offer of repairs that they will just be hodges up, but also really worried that if this newer car is so good why would he let me possibly have it for only an extra £100.
All advice gratefully received

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I'd take the swap then look out for interior on ebay. The current one could be expensive. That airbag fault may be the squib on the steering wheel which for some 206s is £150 plus labour.

40k less is a few good years of driving.

And the extra low cost will stop you going to Trading Standards!
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40k less miles and 1 year newer is a good option. Assuming he has a web-site, can you check how much it's been advertised for? that will give you an idea of the extra value.
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I'd absolutely agree with Gazza on this one. One year may not be significant, but 40k of wear on everything certainly is. Who knows what other issues could be lurking having rectified these? You'll never entirely trust it after this start.
And as he says, leather interiors are always available on eBay.
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Just thought I'd give everyone an update. The dealer refused to pay for diagnostics at peugeot so had to pay £110 before they would release my car! I have contacted dealer and demanded he rectify the faults and he told me to "go to hell - had enough of your shit!
I've now contacted consumer advice, who have told me to put everything in a letter and post it recorded delivery giving a timescale of 14 days. If no joy after that then consumer advice will advise me of what to do next, but it looks like it's gonna be going to court. So now I'm both penniless and car-less, as I've been told it's illegal to drive a car with a speedo that doesn't work. Also found out that odometer doesn't work either! I'll keep everyone updated, but it looks like it's going to be a long drawn out thing.
Oh, and consumer advice are also going to contact trading standards about this dealer.

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That's a real shame and I feel sorry for you.

So it's only the speedo that's stopping you using it right now? I wonder if you could find a small local garage that would take a look at your car and give you an estimate to fix the speedo, they will be cheaper than peugeot for sure. Obviously it's going to cost, maybe a few hundred pounds or less if you're lucky (you deserve some luck now). At least then you would have a usable car.

In the long run you should be able to claim the cost of the repair back from the dealer.
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I've tried that,and even had a speed sensor replaced but still no joy. They've told me that it could be a faulty ecu but not sure without further diagnostics which will cost more money.
The dealer has another 206cc on his website now. It's same engine size but not leather and it's in silver. The ad states no faults but it's £500 more than the car I bought. Have I got the right to ask for this car as a replacement car for mine does anyone know?

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Doubt you'd get any joy now - sounds like the dealer's used up his limited supply of patience and is more interested in digging himself into a hole. I think you should ring me ASAP.
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Have a look at the links in this post http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/viewtopic ... ds#p115031
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Thanks capnol for the links. I've sent a letter today quoting sale of goods act, and given dealer 14 days to reply. So I'll just have to wait and see what happens now.

And thanks enright. I've got to wait and see what dealer intends to do now before I go down the route of having to pay for all repairs myself.

I'll keep everyone informed of events in case it helps anyone else. It's made me extremely wary of dealers though. I hope this isn't what most of them are like.

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Just thought I would update. Texted dealer and asked if he would consider swapping my peugeot for the newer one that he originally offered - no reply!
Looked on his website later to find out that he had removed the newer car from his adverts - so I now think he's changed his mind about that offer and making sure that I don't see the other one he had advertised any more!
I still can't believe that he would do this to me. I honestly believed that he was an honest dealer who would help me to rectify the faults on the car.
So now for my other option - does anyone know if speed sensors are expensive, and are they all the same for a 1.6 206cc or do I have to be careful which one I buy? I'm going to have to try to replace speed sensor myself to make sure the one that's on isn't faulty, but can't do anything till I get paid at end of month. If that doesn't work then I honestly haven't got a clue what to do next. All advice welcomed

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You don't want to start replacing things without having a diagnostic done to verify that they are actually faulty. It could be that the instrument cluster has got a bit confused and simply needs resetting. A diagnostic will tell you which bit is at fault.
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noonoo1956 wrote:Just thought I would update. Texted dealer and asked if he would consider swapping my peugeot for the newer one that he originally offered - no reply!
Looked on his website later to find out that he had removed the newer car from his adverts - so I now think he's changed his mind about that offer and making sure that I don't see the other one he had advertised any more!
I still can't believe that he would do this to me. I honestly believed that he was an honest dealer who would help me to rectify the faults on the car.
So now for my other option - does anyone know if speed sensors are expensive, and are they all the same for a 1.6 206cc or do I have to be careful which one I buy? I'm going to have to try to replace speed sensor myself to make sure the one that's on isn't faulty, but can't do anything till I get paid at end of month. If that doesn't work then I honestly haven't got a clue what to do next. All advice welcomed
I wouldn't touch the car any more if you plan to go legal ... if you do they could push back that it was your fault ... not a good position to be in ...
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Latest update. My partner found a broken wire on the speedo sensor near the gearbox. He has fixed the wire and now the speedo works perfectly!
The electric roof partly works now too, but the boot does not close. The windows go down, the roof goes into the boot and then the boot just stays there. Anyone any ideas what this points to?

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Glad you got the speedo sorted - so it turned out to be a free fix, bonus!
That roof/boot issue will be a sticky or broken microswitch. There are 9 micro-switches dotted about which control the operation of the roof/boot mechanisms. These have to feed inputs to the roof ECU in a certain sequence. If it doesn't get a signal at the right time then it won't proceed to the next phase of the cycle.
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