Roof not working and lid not closing...

[Jamesk07]

Hi all,

I bought my car, a 2001 206cc 1.6 16v on Friday. As per the guide on here I changed the battery correctly. After this the roof worked, going up and down fine, albeit the passenger side quarter lift window didn't go up properly.

So, yesterday I continue the work, sorting out a few problems. Taking the rear interior out and inspecting the rear window mechanism, it was clear the mechanism was faulty. So I bought a replacement part and with a bit of cursing got it fitted, all works perfectly! Only problem is, now the roof won't go back up... Dead on time, the worst hailstorm I've seen in sunny Margate, so I used the video posted on here to manually raise the roof. That worked, but now the lid won't clip back down, at all. I tried all day but it won't click back down. This may also explain the incessant beep when I drive over 5mph.

My question, has anyone experienced this? If so, is there a fix? My current plan is to find an independent specialist and let them give the car an overhaul... Checking all micro switches, seals etc...

Thank you all in advance for any light you can shed on this.

James

[Jamesk07]

I should mention... The clips which keep the lid down don't seem to engage as they should when it lowers. They move, but not enough to click in place. I have checked the white clips either side and they are currently in the position nearest the boot lid itself.

[Capncol]

You still have the white clips in the auto position.

[Jamesk07]

Hi Capncol, I've tried the clips in both positions to no avail unfortunately. Is there anything else you can suggest? I just can't figure why they won't lock...

Many thanks,

James

[Capncol]

Not sure if you have seen this or not.
See if it helps

[Jamesk07]

This is the video I used as a guide and it was really useful. Unfortunately, the last part isn't quite working out for me as the lid catches just don't re-engage. I think I've exhausted my problem solving skills on this one... Getting in the boot with a torch and getting the old lowered was a low part of my day :-)

[Karrot]

I had exactly the same issue when I (naively and stupidly) turned the ignition off with the roof 1/2 way

Once, I had the roof back in the close position and the boot lid down, I opened the boot, set the white clips to manual, pressed the latches together and then carefully pushed the locking clip at the front of the C shape latches back in to place. Then I set the white clips back to auto.

The locking clip is labelled as '8' in this pic


It seemed like the system didnt want to run because these locking clips werent engaged as they had been opened by the hydraulics, but not closed again when I closed the lid manually.

Hope That helps

K

[Jamesk07]

Hi Karrot,

Thank you for this explanation, I'm going to have another go tomorrow. Had an independent peugeot tech take a look last night, run diagnostics and do a bit of problem solving. He's attributed it microswitches, either the front pillars or the boot switch. He's going to replace these, but if this diagram solves it then even better!

I'll let you know how it goes!

James

[Enright]

Sounds like it's not finished it's cycle closing, and is stuck in a loop that it can't get out of.
May need a bit of persuasion.
If you have an assistant (or two) handy, undo the roof clips, have your assistants press down on the lid at the corners nearest the rear window pillar, and use the button to try closing the roof. It may just be enough to operate the micro-switches, and once it's latched each side it should work again.

[Jamesk07]

Hi Enright,

Thank you for your advice. This is exactly what the technician said and got us to try when he came to look at the car for me. Whilst he had his laptop plugged into the car we tried pressing down on the lid but the fault wouldn't budge and the catches wouldn't re-engage.

The lid is currently cable tied shut for security and I'm hoping I can finish work a bit early to work through Karrot's suggestion. Desperate to get this roof working properly! After all, not much point in a convertible if it won't convert

Thank you all again,

James

[Jamesk07]

Well Karrot,

What can I say? One HUGE thank you for you! On my lunch break in the staff car park (no fear of rain underground) I tested out your advice and sure enough, it was enough to automatically re-engage the lid clips. To test it had 'reset' the system so to speak, I released the roof catches and got the 'beep', officially now the best noise ever The roof went down (albeit jerkily) fine, and went back up fine too, with lid latches firmly locked automatically!

That said, it only did this once and now refuses to open again. This isn't a surprise as I was aware that the roof release catches (I suspect passenger side) are a bit suspect. My tech ran diagnistics which showed them as open even when they were shut. He is going to fit new microswitches here and hopefully that should resolve the problem! Fingers crossed!

Anyway, a big thank you to everyone so far. I will be sure to post the conclusion...

James

[Enright]

If you take the front microswitches out, then you can probably get them working again without having to replace them. They can get sticky due to lack of exercise over Winter, but out in the fresh air you can soon get them clicking consistently. Then just lubricate the latch mechanism and you should be fine.

[Karrot]

Glad that's got you secured Good luck with the switches.

K

[Jamesk07]

Good morning!

I had a bit of success yesterday... The weather was amazing here in Kent yesterday, and I wanted the roof down. I pulled each latch open, no beep... Poking my finger inside the passenger side latch mechanism something clicked, followed by the beep! Brilliant, the roof came down! So I figured something was sticking, meaning the sensor wasn't engaging... Some contact cleaner followed by a healthy dose of WD40 has got that mechanism moving freely and as good as new. I now get the beep every single time and the roof has been going up and down like a charm...

Please don't think me stupid for asking this, but I had employed the services of an independant technician (ex-Peugeot and known locally as an authority on these cars)... He believed/believes it to be the microswitches in the latches. Should I still get him to replace them as planned as a prevenative bit of maintenance, or is there no point, given they appear to be working perfectly now. I'm leaning towards calling him off... Again, this might be a stupid question, so apologies.

Many thanks for all your help guys, it has been invaluable!

James

[Enright]

That's exactly what I figured - even better that you were able to free it up without having to dismantle it.
Your mechanic is right in that it IS (or rather WAS) the microswitches, but now that they're lubed and working properly, with regular exercise they should continue to do. And at least you know the tell-tale signs if they stop doing (i.e. you suddenly go "bong"-less)!
I would call him off - no point in fixing something that isn't broken anymore. Save yourself some money.