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Postby apgandy » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:43 pm

Wanted some long range spotlights but something to match the car! Difficult to find decent enough halogen spots these days as everything is led and although nothing against led's as I use them in low beam they don't tend to fire a great distance like halogen or hid. Anyway I found these little 4" pencil beam spots that I colour coded and refitted with h3 100watt bulbs. Wired to the main beams they give very good range for there size and to me look pretty good.
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Re: spotlights

Postby Spitfire6 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:07 pm

Nicely done.
Easy to fit?
Did you use relays, if so where did you take the main power from?
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Re: spotlights

Postby gazza82 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:38 am

You might want to check the laws as I think 55w is the max you can use/fit legally on the road ...

Spitfire6: I took a relay feed from the main positive feed in the engine fuse box via a separate fuse box.
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Re: spotlights

Postby apgandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:25 pm

Regarding wattage of add on driving lights/ spotlights the power can be pretty much anything you see fit just as long as they are correctly spaced and are only activated inline with high beams!! Factory fitted headlights are governed by the laws of 55watt max high or low beams.
Cheers for the comments spitfire6, Yes very easy to fit but with wiring at the moment are wired inline with the high beams after checking output on this circuit. Its fine but would rather use a relay system with separate power supply but due to the way the headlamps are wired it seems the conventional method using high beam positive for trigger wire is not viable? Im sure there must be a configuration that works with relay but still searching.
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Re: spotlights

Postby IanL » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:08 pm

You could use the high beam positive through a spotlamp control switch to the operating coil of a relay, the other end of which is earthed, and then wire the relay contacts to supply positive from the battery through an inline fuse to the spots, with the other end of the spots taken to earth.

Your new relay would only operate if the headlamps were on high beam and the control switch was to ON. This adds almost no extra current through the BSI relays and fuses for the headlamps.
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Re: spotlights

Postby Spitfire6 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:26 pm

Hi,
I think that the wattage thing is due to higher power bulbs not being e marked.
For the main beam, I see no problem as you will not be blinding other drivers.

For the main feed to relay I would take a fused feed from alternator connection if easy to get to.

If it's not easy to connect a relay, is this because of the 206 switches the ground feed? If so, just connect coil between + and neg switched wire to the main beam?

Historically I would choose a higher watt lamp like the 100 watts & not, e type bulb.
Today I would use an LED lamp that draws over two amps & is bright as ****. I would not use a non e type LED bulb as dipped as they will get you in trouble. Main beam- no problem on a spot.

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Re: spotlights

Postby apgandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:30 pm

To IanL as spitfire6 said the wiring system dosnt operate in the conventional way as I found out so unless I see a wiring diagram giving an alternative I wouldn't have a clue at the moment. Im ok with this stuff but would prefer not to damage he original wiring system. Leds are pretty good but would rather stay with halogen as less hassle! although I do have 75watt hid ballast's and bulbs to convert but these are pretty bright as is with h3's if not a little orange lol
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Re: spotlights

Postby Spitfire6 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:04 pm

Hi,
just checked the circuit diagram. Headlamps are switched live like most cars.
You just need to connect the coil terminal to one main beam feed.
Waterproofed Scothlok would do. Not as Spawn of gash as it sounds!

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Re: spotlights

Postby apgandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:36 pm

strange as this is what I tried and it turned the spots on when connected with no lights or ignition on?
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Re: spotlights

Postby apgandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:41 pm

This is the circuit I used.
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Re: spotlights

Postby Spitfire6 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:06 pm

The circuit is correct mate.
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Re: spotlights

Postby IanL » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:10 pm

Yes, the headlamps are switched live according to the SEDRE. The controlling relay is in the BSI and the polarity is clear on the BSI circuit diagram, and the headlamp wiring diagram.

Your connections shown are correct. Have you checked that there is zero volts on terminal 86 when the main beam is off? Also check the relay contacts for correct operation with an ohmmeter (perhaps the relay is stuck ON).
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Re: spotlights

Postby apgandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:33 pm

Cheers for the pointers! have a spare couple of relays so will check with them as well. Using the above method I just got live continuous?
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Re: spotlights

Postby apgandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:34 pm

Wouldn't be anything to do with this multiplex wiring would it?
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Re: spotlights

Postby Spitfire6 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:58 pm

Hi,
The diagram I looked at was for VANBus/CANBUS etc. In any case, I doubt powering a coil from any lamp source would cause a computer to register.
Suspect the relay.. Is a strange one as I cannot see how it is possible to miss wire & get your symptoms.
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