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Postby GCLIVE1 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:30 am

Hi all first post here

My name is Gavin and I have gone and bought myself a 206 cc at an auction

Beside the obvious title, it appears to have either been stolen or someone has attempted to steal it, the car comes with no keys...

It has a collapsed back end so I will need to look into that and a rust issue but appart from all that the car seems like it could be a nice little car if I could get the thing running.

I’ve seen a few post regarding how much of an issue guys have had with getting keys. I had a scrappy tell me I can replace the ECU, with his ECU and it will come with a key and it will then turn over and the car should unlock and lock with the Key since the door barrel locks were not part of the deal until I could get it running I seen no need to pay for them unless I got it to start.

I agreed to this (oh no!) and he came and replaced what I needed to have replace and now the car cranks on the key but no ignition. Have I been sold a bum steer or is it likely there are other issues lurking. What do I do from here to ensure the car will start and that I don’t go attempting to fault find further and find that it’s the ECU he has supplied me needs a computer hooked up to it to make it work. Any help would be appreciated.

My final though was if I’ve been sold a bum steer do I need to start all over again and would I be better to replace the ECU again and all the locks if I can find someone breaking a car? So I get a key with it?

Hope someone can shed some light for me to get going.
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby IanL » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:47 pm

The ECU AND the BSI (Internal fusebox) plus the keys must be swapped as a set. The BSI contains the data which identifies the keys (immobiliser-wise and remote locking-wise). If the scrappy did not provide the BSI, he must either provide it (and the right one, not any old BSI), or he should refund you.

If the keys you got from the scrappy are remote keys, and they DO operate the door locks, then he must have supplied the matching BSI, in which case something else is wrong.

If you decide to start again, ensure you get ECU and BSI together with ignition lock barrel from a 206CC with the same engine. Also get the VIN from the donor car, which you will need if you ever want to get more keys programmed.
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby IanL » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:04 am

Afterthought. There is a way to determine whether the immobiliser is recognising the key. Put the key in the ignition (but do not turn on) and open the driver's door. The car should beep. No beep means the car is still immobilised, which would suggest the ECU, BSI and key are probably not matched.

One quick check you could do is to open the key and look for a small black plastic chip clipped into the shell. If it's not there, that's your problem, and a new keyfob is required to be programmed to the car.
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby Capncol » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:53 pm

Best thing is put old ECU back in and get new keys coded for it from Peugeot.
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby GCLIVE1 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:26 am

Thanks for your replies everyone.

It seems there is more than one option to continue this forward,


The issue I had when I went for changing the ECU was that I got the car without keys so it’s not like I could just have had the car looked at by a specialist and have the car work on that key I bought it with.

That was my thinking when I thought about changing the ECU would be I could purchase the ECU from a spares and repares car that ran but was getting broken for parts and I could have then bought all the parts and keys from this car to get my car to turn over and hopefully run.

When this did not work I turned to the forum before pouring all my money into this car when it does require other parts to get it through an MOT and drivable. (Rear suspension and passengers door or at least a re spray).
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby Rubyoptics » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:16 am

I'll pour in my two cents for what it's worth...Firstly, i have no idea how much you paid for the car but as it's an auction and with the issues you describe, i'm going to go ahead and assume it was pretty cheap. There are a couple of things to consider if you wish to proceed down the swap route...firstly...compare the cost of doing all that to getting a new set of keys made. Secondly, although i am guessing the car didn't have any paperwork, if you DO swap the BSI over and the donor car is higher mileage, the car will read the higher mileage and as far as i know there is no way to remedy this. I have no idea if that is important to you or not, but better to know before hand.
Do you know with any degree of certainty that it is only this key issue that is stopping the car from starting/running?
Not trying to be the negative guy here, but personally I would weigh up the total cost of the repairs against waiting a few months and getting a driveable car during the winter months when the prices drop considerably. You may be able to get back the money you paid for your auction car by selling the car as parts if you have the room to store the car whilst selling the bits!

I wish you the best of luck and let us know how you are doing with your car.
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby GCLIVE1 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:41 am

There was definitely potential to break the car if the parts would have at least broke even preferably with a bit of profit in the car for my time and effort I’ve put into stripping it.

I wanted to get it running for either a family member use for a summer or two or to sell for again, breaking even or with a bit of profit so cost saving is the biggest issue. When I heard I was looking at £250 plus for a new set of keys and then the ECU might have been locked or shot due to someone attempting to drive the car via the old screw driver in the barrel method (as the barrel was pretty chewed up). I assumed getting a key cut would have not been the best option as at the end of the day if it did some how run the barrel would still look like it was a shady vehicle.

I’m unsure if I was naive looking at the price of the key and thinking they would just supply the key, take my money and leave even if the car did not start or turn over but that was why I took the route to purchasing a deal with key, barrel ECU and so on to get the car running.

I have since had a loan of a laptop with Peugeot plannet and the cable to connect to the car and I could not get the car to talk to the ECU so I’m afraid I may well be back to square one having been sold a bad ECU.

Potentially lesson learned.

Currently at a cross roads to invest more money especially at the end of the “summer” to get it going, moth ball it until next year or cut my losses and sell it on to someone that knew what they were getting into.

Any advice on all of the above would be appreciated and I’ll keep you posted on what I end up doing with the car.
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby Rubyoptics » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:05 pm

What spec is the car? engine etc?
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Re: Stolen recovered car

Postby Capncol » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:01 pm

Your best option would be to order a key from Peugeot that will be coded to your car (with original ECU) Then if all good, replace the barrel.
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