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206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:27 pm

Hi Guys, Peugeot 206 / cc / Rally Car owner, newbie on here

Ive recently purchased an old peugeot 206 cup car rally car without an engine or gearbox, I had a peugeot 206 cc for spare parts so decided to fit the CC engine to the cup car.

All connected up and fitted up, using the wiring and bsi, ecu, key etc from a peugeot 206 Xsi (Same engine), as dont have these parts from the cc.

Unfortunatly having no joy getting it started, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

One thing ive noticed is the rally car has a fuel pump with just one fuel line, whereas my cc has a return fuel line, ive left the original no return line fuel pump there.

Any helps greatly appreciated.

Sorry if ive left out information

Alan
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby IanL » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:21 pm

I suggest you check fuel pressure - if the non-standard fuel system is problem, it might show up.
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm

i believe this is still a standard fuel system, did some of the xsi not come with a non return fuel line system, where the fuel pressure was regulated from the pump?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm

the fuel pump is running while cranking, however there is no fuel being injected
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:02 pm

have fitted a new crank sensor, and maf sensor i think its callled, i havent yet fitted the radiator or coolant pipes, so hense to coolant in the system, could this be an issue?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby IanL » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am

It is possible that the Coolant Temperature Sensor, sitting in air, is having an effect, but I wouldn't put money on it.

If you are correct that the xsi system regulates fuel pressure at the pump, have you fitted the xsi pump? Are there any control signals between the xsi ECU and the pump, with additional wiring?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Spitfire6 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:22 pm

RFID transponder?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:59 pm

Spitfire6 wrote:RFID transponder?


is this the immobiliiser? would the fuel pump be running of imobiliser was issue?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:44 pm

IanL wrote:It is possible that the Coolant Temperature Sensor, sitting in air, is having an effect, but I wouldn't put money on it.

If you are correct that the xsi system regulates fuel pressure at the pump, have you fitted the xsi pump? Are there any control signals between the xsi ECU and the pump, with additional wiring?


ya fitted the xsi pump, it has the same wiring connector
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:46 pm

is there a common way to test for spark, with the coil pack on the plugs is it as simple as just earthing the tip of the plugs while cranking?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby IanL » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:01 pm

Peugeot1600rally wrote:
Spitfire6 wrote:RFID transponder?


is this the immobiliiser? would the fuel pump be running of imobiliser was issue?


Yes, the immobiliser. I believe the fuel pump will run, but the injectors will not inject, and the ignition will not spark. Injectors can be tested with a Noid Lamp.
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 am

IanL wrote:
Peugeot1600rally wrote:
Spitfire6 wrote:RFID transponder?


is this the immobiliiser? would the fuel pump be running of imobiliser was issue?


Yes, the immobiliser. I believe the fuel pump will run, but the injectors will not inject, and the ignition will not spark. Injectors can be tested with a Noid Lamp.


ok. this sounds right, the fuel pump is running, but theres definetly no fuel being injected.

would there be other tell tale signs this is the immobiliser causing problem?
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby IanL » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:14 pm

I believe you can see whether the immobiliser is "immobilising" or not using Peugeot Planet.
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Peugeot1600rally » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:31 pm

IanL wrote:I believe you can see whether the immobiliser is "immobilising" or not using ms.4/]Peugeot Planet.


found a centre screen piece and connected it up, yes immobiliser fault is coming up and then economy mode
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Re: 206 1.6 No Start

Postby Capncol » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Double check all the sensor plugs. Ive had it where you have 2 identical models but one has a 3 pins in the sensor, the other has 4, but they use the same plugs Crank sensor for example.
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